Another Violation of Game Integrity

Espa
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1 July 2020 - 02:54 CEST
#1
After the review of six and a half hours of footage, the admin team has come to the conclusion that the player marshmellow has, beyond reasonable doubt, cheated on multiple occasions during official matches.
The evidence against him was mainly taken from the FPOV that was submitted by himself and reviewed by the admin team and multiple trusted players from different teams and backgrounds.
We decided to make this as transparent as possible.

Ultimately the decision was made by the admin team based on votes

The voting was 3 to 0 with 1 abstention.

Partakers of the voting were:
-Espa
-Omega
-infamous
-Pelargir

DCDarkling did not partake as it will be his job to handle marshmellow's right to appeal.

Based on our Rules for "Sanctions and Appeal Process" Title I Chapter II Point 2 (https://www.ensl.org/articles/1070) the Ban for Cheating is permanent and immediate.

He has been informed about his right to appeal according to our "Sanctions and Appeal Process" (https://www.ensl.org/articles/1070):

"Any appeal from a decision rendered by an Admin based on a violation of the Code of Conduct can be brought before the Executive Admin."

It is unfortunate that this decision had to be reached, but we must ensure a level playing field for all players.

The evidence videos are currently hosted by marshmellow.
Review notes with links and timestamps can be found in the following doc.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yxk1Rng04P65RspNfWk4RXELhdG-FVSIFLr17r1x9Cw

In case he should decide to take the videos down, I we will reupload them for evidence purpose.
Sardine
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1 July 2020 - 08:48 CEST
#2
-Espa
-Omega
-infamous
-Pelargir

In the name of transparency and impartiality an open statement from these people would be good, as would a list of the people you consulted to make the decision.

Yeah theres some weird actions in the video, but some of the descriptions on the timestamps are biased in their wording or completely inconsequential, and others are limited to the most cherry picked moments. No mention of random 180s or shaky movement outside of engagements.

There is no attempt in the document to establish timestamps that would point to the players normal pattern of mouse movement to compare against what it assumed as assisted movement. I hope the admins and the esteemed consulting team went into the vods with that unbiased view in mind and didn't just fast forward to each timestamp.
Doggo
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1 July 2020 - 14:17 CEST
#3
You're next on the list bruno for cheating and lag/rate hacks
Hyste
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1 July 2020 - 20:29 CEST
#4
So :

-Espa (???)
-Omega (???)
-infamous
-Pelargir

Only 2 players who knows how high level ns2 is played, nice.

Once again, disappointed by the lack of evidences in these clips.
And I'm not saying that marsh doesn't cheat in these clips, I'm just saying that based on these images it should be objectively impossible to prove.

And proof is required if you're gonna ban someone and convince a bunch of people that he did cheat. You can't ban someone based on assumptions.

bUt heY wHo LiKes mArSh AnYwaY rIgHt ?
DCDarkling
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1 July 2020 - 21:13 CEST
#5
Marsh has appealed, so his appeal has started.
This will not be a short process as it is potentially his last chance.

Yes, the procedure does include watching all the footage in detail. Not skipping to moments.
The names of anyone who reviewed will not be revealed. (They can themselves if they so wish.)
It just creates drama of people pointing and disagreeing on each other.
I prefer people just look at the footage and comment on that on their own, unofficially.
Sardine
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2 July 2020 - 03:06 CEST
#6
So some people who have been admins for all of 5 minutes being dictated to by a hidden group of people many of whom had an open dislike of marsh.

no accountability, no transparency, what an absolute joke
Rammler
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2 July 2020 - 11:35 CEST
#7
To be honest the last video in 0:13:55 is really weird where he kills starcetereus anf then somehow flicks on the center of the tunnel after a short stutter. That looks extremly weird....
tap
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2 July 2020 - 12:01 CEST
#8
Definitely cheats.
Nightsy
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2 July 2020 - 21:23 CEST
#9
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/668084882

VOD review

vod is muted during one part - all the stuff i said in muted parts was that the clips shown are not suspicious at all
Rautapalli
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2 July 2020 - 22:31 CEST
#10
With these one frame flicks you have to keep in mind that the recording is 30 fps. For the tunnel flick his fps was 100+, so there are a ton of frames missing from the recording.
Stranger
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3 July 2020 - 04:23 CEST
#11
Don't worry too much marshmellow. Just come back in a few years if NS2 is still alive and you will be welcomed back, just ask all the other cheaters.
LostMyFrontWing
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9 July 2020 - 02:17 CEST
#12
wow, this rippled some waves. high enough to reach me :)
didn't look into all the footage, maybe 20-30 min of it, and i don't see undeniable cheats there
also, why so serious? it's the same 50 people playing the game, who cares?
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