@Simple just wait a month, apologize, and get unbanned.

Simple for Kevin Mitnick of NS2?

GORGEous says

@Simple just wait a month, apologize, and get unbanned.

lullz.

There were reasons I didn't keep Simple on staff and wasn't more receptive to him during my time with the NSL. Sounds about right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6tqbkkf8QM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4nYSfOn-Oo

Blatent cheater for at least two seasons, kind of absurd he wasn't banned before now tbh. I know multiple people on my team have had this opinion since at least season 6 if not season 5. Lets not forget the obvious wallhack usage on our Jambi alien round vs DIY to find Golden's gorge in last season's finals.

IRONF1ST says

Blatent cheater for at least two seasons, kind of absurd he wasn't banned before now tbh. I know multiple people on my team have had this opinion since at least season 6 if not season 5. Lets not forget the obvious wallhack usage on our Jambi alien round vs DIY to find Golden's gorge in last season's finals.

https://youtu.be/HsVYDpxWWrI?t=6130

Just simple things.

Why has the Season 7 Div 1 Finals not changed to Lucky Chams in the Hall of Fame?

Golden says

Why has the Season 7 Div 1 Finals not changed to Lucky Chams in the Hall of Fame?

Theres no doubt that his cheating had a huge outcome in multiple games in the finals. We would probably have easily taken rounds and not had a tie breaker.

https://youtu.be/fG-VzMggljg?t=562

Golden says

Why has the Season 7 Div 1 Finals not changed to Lucky Chams in the Hall of Fame?

If you actually read the post, we will be discussing that.

It's surprising yet it explains a lot of things.

If simple didn't play, I would have, and you can't detect or prove if I wall hack :))))))

Wob says

If simple didn't play, I would have, and you can't detect or prove my wall hacks :))))))

Well it would be easy since you keep telling us about them B))))

Wow, just wow.
I remember multiple discussions during pcws with simple, where he flamed members of HBZ of beeing to bad and he laughed all day long about others blaming him for cheating.

And to the admins:
Is it possible to integrade your new "detection" into vac?
I know at least around 3 who are also very suspicious.

ADHD says

Golden says

Why has the Season 7 Div 1 Finals not changed to Lucky Chams in the Hall of Fame?

Theres no doubt that his cheating had a huge outcome in multiple games in the finals. We would probably have easily taken rounds and not had a tie breaker.

I have no problem with giving chams the win, but you have zero(0) proof of him cheating during the finals, and your salt won't help turning it your way.

Spring says

ADHD says

Golden says

Why has the Season 7 Div 1 Finals not changed to Lucky Chams in the Hall of Fame?

Theres no doubt that his cheating had a huge outcome in multiple games in the finals. We would probably have easily taken rounds and not had a tie breaker.

I have no problem with giving chams the win, but you have zero(0) proof of him cheating during the finals, and your salt won't help turning it your way.

As a former Simples's teammates your notice is irrelevant, but thanks.

dePARA says

Wow, just wow.
I remember multiple discussions during pcws with simple, where he flamed members of HBZ of beeing to bad and he laughed all day long about others blaming him for cheating.

And to the admins:
Is it possible to integrade your new "detection" into vac?
I know at least around 3 who are also very suspicious.

Mail me, send me a private message or something with who you think are suspicious and we can investigate.

season 3 herakles cheated

season 3 daamz cheated

season 6 tap cheated

season 8 lamb cheated

season 9 kevin cheated

dePARA says

Wow, just wow.
I remember multiple discussions during pcws with simple, where he flamed members of HBZ of beeing to bad and he laughed all day long about others blaming him for cheating.

+

More like unlucky chams.

16 January 2016
14:41 - pulzz: do you have any spare ns2 keys? got a couple of ppl who wants to try it
14:41 - Wob: SURE
14:41 - Wob: FUCKING SMURFER
14:41 - Wob: WITH CHEATS
14:42 - Wob: POST IN ENSL INC

You forgot: season 5 6 7 8 spring cheated.

Simple lol... wtf brozef, at least i hope you didn't spread those :|

Do you have back logs from S7? If not rule it a NC at least i guess.

herakles says

You forgot: season 5 6 7 8 spring cheated.

Simple lol... wtf brozef, at least i hope you didn't spread those :|

Do you have back logs from S7? If not rule it a NC at least i guess.

Simple has confirmed he hasn't spread it and doesn't intend to do so. either way if the same way is used to cheat it will be spotted.

Sad. NS2 more cheaters than GTA soon B)

On a serious note:

http://www.twitch.tv/lambbbu/c/7064703?t=1h39m45s

Herakles: Lerk grav
Zafod: Where are they going?
Hera: Near base

1 already in waste, 1 already in bay wing, simple makes mistake of going repairs and decides to come back because
1. care lerk grav
2. care base (from hera)

Tinki says

Spring says

ADHD says

Golden says

Why has the Season 7 Div 1 Finals not changed to Lucky Chams in the Hall of Fame?

Theres no doubt that his cheating had a huge outcome in multiple games in the finals. We would probably have easily taken rounds and not had a tie breaker.

I have no problem with giving chams the win, but you have zero(0) proof of him cheating during the finals, and your salt won't help turning it your way.

As a former Simples's teammates your notice is irrelevant, but thanks.

Care to elaborate? How is it irrelevant?

Discussion is between giving Lucky Chams the win or leaving the winners as is, and if you won't get 100% proof that he cheated during the finals, then nothing is going to change.
A) Simple says he didn't cheat to screw over chams
B) Simple says he cheated to screw over diy
You have to take whatever he says with a grain of salt.

Any suspicious actions he made during the finals from the top down point of view or Lambo's stream can be turned around as smart plays.

You being Simple's "teammate" is sortof irrelevant in this topic.

There were some evidences on his behavior which I noticed when I was playing with him on HBZ. I wasnt the only one on HBZ.
Im glad now its proofed he cheats and be banned immediatly.

GJ!

+1 para

I'll be taking part in the discussion as a player since I was playing in the previous finals.

Simple was caught cheating during a scrim a couple of days ago, where enough proof was gathered to bust him & deal with it. There is no proof of him cheating during the finals in Season 7, the moments people found suspicious might as well be smart plays or calls which made him decide other things. The rules state if a player is found cheating, the CURRENT season matches will be forfeit, that along with no proof sets it.
I've turned back due to a call or a marine dying on the other side of the map, only to run into a skulk attempting to ambush (in that case a gorge). At this point, asking simple wouldn't even help due to what Spring said.

All of these & more facts have to be considered, you can't make a decision solely based on a personal opinion.

Spring says

ADHD says

Golden says

Why has the Season 7 Div 1 Finals not changed to Lucky Chams in the Hall of Fame?

Theres no doubt that his cheating had a huge outcome in multiple games in the finals. We would probably have easily taken rounds and not had a tie breaker.

I have no problem with giving chams the win, but you have zero(0) proof of him cheating during the finals, and your salt won't help turning it your way.

Basic logic spring, if simple could play at DIY's level without cheats then he wouldn't have made them. If he only recently made them after the game, he would of appealed to the admins with it, seeking a more lenient punishment. Eissfeldt did it with wall hacking, to catch a wall hacker.

They don't have to prove he cheated in the match. When evilbot was found to be cheating, all match results were overturned without proof for every single match. Simple has been proven to be cheating and his matches should be overturned!

At the very least, a rematch between DIY and lucky chams should be done. If such a match cannot be done then the win should be given to lucky chams, reward the players that competed legit not those that had a cheater.

tyrer1246 says

Spring says

ADHD says

Golden says

Why has the Season 7 Div 1 Finals not changed to Lucky Chams in the Hall of Fame?

Theres no doubt that his cheating had a huge outcome in multiple games in the finals. We would probably have easily taken rounds and not had a tie breaker.

I have no problem with giving chams the win, but you have zero(0) proof of him cheating during the finals, and your salt won't help turning it your way.

Basic logic spring, if simple could play at DIY's level without cheats then he wouldn't have made them. If he only recently made them after the game, he would of appealed to the admins with it, seeking a more lenient punishment. Eissfeldt did it with wall hacking, to catch a wall hacker.

They don't have to prove he cheated in the match. When evilbot was found to be cheating, all match results were overturned without proof for every single match. Simple has been proven to be cheating and his matches should be overturned!

At the very least, a rematch between DIY and lucky chams should be done. If such a match cannot be done then the win should be given to lucky chams, reward the players that competed legit not those that had a cheater.

Read message above, rules state "current season". Evilbot's match results were overturned because it was the CURRENT season. We're talking about last season.

If you're going to go by logic rather than proof, then all I can, and want to say, is "lol".

I didn't want simple to play a single official, because I thought something fishy was going on.
edit: I expressed my thoughts about it as "don't let simple play a single official" and I thought that's what we agreed to, and again, I don't know why he played the final.

If Chams had an issue with it during the finals, because it's not like they didn't know about it, they could've told their concerns to us, or the ensl, and got someone to spec the game for them. Why won't anyone deal with the issues at hand rather than deal with them months later..