It´s time to ban Met

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'nough said
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Switching teams to TK two hives? Seems pretty clear cut bannable behaviour...
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Hello friends,

@Adz: The game was pretty much over 4v4 and it's not like zups hasn't done something similar in the past. But I apologize for not recognizing that you still wanted to play on.

@Trollbot:

https://ensl.gk-servers.de/public/index.php?dir=demos/&file=SPUTNIK-1-2006070124-ns_orbital_anslv2.dem

At 10:45 game time or (50:41 demo time) you placed mines on the generator hive PG and then blew them up with your hand grenades, when the game was still raging on. I witnessed it first hand from my POV and wasn't going to say anything to start a fire but you decided to make a thread about me... Watch from both of our POVs. Clearly a troll move and we weren't even losing hard at that point in the game.
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Hello friends,

@Adz: The game was pretty much over 4v4 and it's not like zups hasn't done something similar in the past. But I apologize for not recognizing that you still wanted to play on.

@Trollbot:

https://ensl.gk-servers.de/public/index.php?dir=demos/&file=SPUTNIK-1-2006070124-ns_orbital_anslv2.dem

At 10:45 game time or (50:41 demo time) you placed mines on the generator hive PG and then blew them up with your hand grenades, when the game was still raging on. I witnessed it first hand from my POV and wasn't going to say anything to start a fire but you decided to make a thread about me... Watch from both of our POVs. Clearly a troll move and we weren't even losing hard at that point in the game.




Met, I really adore how sophisticated your trolling is. You should consider becoming the next president of the USA. Instead of blaming the WHO for your failure (if you get my point...) you should reflect on your mistakes and try to change some of your behaviour (like binding your goddamn ammo button).

It´s funny you actually trying to compare the situation at 10:45 with what your consistent mishaps. If you had me not muted in that game you would have know that I even told yufa that I accidentally blew up the mines with my nades. So please, focus on your own game.
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hitler never switched sides, and bit down a hive. but trump did! he used to be a democrat, switched sides bit down all the ideas he was saying was good before.
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gobot says


Met says

Hello friends,

@Adz: The game was pretty much over 4v4 and it's not like zups hasn't done something similar in the past. But I apologize for not recognizing that you still wanted to play on.

@Trollbot:

https://ensl.gk-servers.de/public/index.php?dir=demos/&file=SPUTNIK-1-2006070124-ns_orbital_anslv2.dem

At 10:45 game time or (50:41 demo time) you placed mines on the generator hive PG and then blew them up with your hand grenades, when the game was still raging on. I witnessed it first hand from my POV and wasn't going to say anything to start a fire but you decided to make a thread about me... Watch from both of our POVs. Clearly a troll move and we weren't even losing hard at that point in the game.




Met, I really adore how sophisticated your trolling is. You should consider becoming the next president of the USA. Instead of blaming the WHO for your failure (if you get my point...) you should reflect on your mistakes and try to change some of your behaviour (like binding your goddamn ammo button).

It´s funny you actually trying to compare the situation at 10:45 with what your consistent mishaps. If you had me not muted in that game you would have know that I even told yufa that I accidentally blew up the mines with my nades. So please, focus on your own game.




You seem a little upset that Jericky allowed me to flash fade and made you rt/fade. If you watch the demo, anyone who believes that was an accident is an idiot. After I muted you and everyone moved on from your crying, it was pretty clear from the start that your intention was to troll marine side. You were suppose to be on cap team with me, yet you left me at port corridor and gen hive and veered off to do your own thing.

You blow at commanding and get defensive when hearing critical feedback that's meant to improve your comm. You are slow to med your marines, slow to get the upgrades we need in crucial moments and always fast to give up when situations don't play out to the tee as you planned in your mind.

You lack the basic leadership qualities. You're a support type of person, a follower of someone and not meant to lead. We basically have a follower in the chair trying to give us orders and lead us to victory. That's literally what I see every time you are in the chair. That is what 5 marines have to deal with every game when you are the commander. And to top it off you have a knack on doing boring shit like shotgun rushes when we still have a chance at victory. Just stay out of the chair bro. This right here is testament to why they hire men to do these types of jobs.
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I feel as a member of our community I need to make my own input on the situation. Also, as an AMERICAN member of the community, a community in which so many of its members are racist towards AMERICANS, I doubt I will get anything beyond a glossing look over this post. Nevertheless, as I was once a team mate with Met on team ANGF (Argentina No Good Fades) I feel compelled to voice my thoughts on his behalf.

Here are the facts of the situation:

-Met has improved as a player. I remember a game when I was commanding and I was trying to push a 2nd hive going up, and after deliberately giving orders and telling everyone to proceed to the hive push and wondering why the fuck only half of my marines were there, I looked around the map and I saw Met welding a resource node in double. I bet I wouldn't catch him doing that again.

-Met is willing to take on important roles. I can't tell you how often I have been captain and I ask, "Does anyone want to fade? Does anyone want to lerk?" and I'm met with radio silence (unless if Dreaming Fairy or Met is on my team). I can't speak for everyone that captains frequently, but I do know that some of us actually do not enjoy lifeforming every game, including myself.

-Met is reliable. When I registered my team to the Argentinian nightcup, one of them could not figure out in his own incompetency how to launch the game. The other couldn't set an alarm clock. It was Met who saved my team, who stepped in as a merc and allowed our team to prevail as the Argentinian World Champions. Messi would be proud.

-Met will try to listen. Unlike aldebaran, zups, or a handful of other mother fuckers in this community, if I tell Met to do something and if he's able to hear me over the jirikis and eisteets slobbering over their microphones to back seat command, I will watch him on the map and try to do what I ask of him.

-Europeans are easily triggered by Met simply by what he says, not what he does. This is a phenomenon that is equal parts sad and equal parts hilarious.

But no, seriously. If you ban Met then why not other people? The game in which he allegedly broke the 'rules' was unmistakably over. I don't know why anyone in their right mind would pretend otherwise just to get a ban on someone. I doubt anyone else will get banned for similar measures, which is unfair. Why not ban me for my emotional outbursts? Why not ban zups for doing whatever the fuck he wants and f4ing when he thinks the game is over, and then prolonging the game at other times? Why not ban aldebaran for not listening? Why not Dag Kam for arguing for days if he could? Why not ban jiriki for disrupting voice comms after being asked to keep them clear repeatedly by multiple players? Why not ban Fairy for being high as a fucking kite while he plays? Why not ban slipknot for being intoxicated out of his mind while he plays? Why not ban Gohan for not understanding English?
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gobot is a faggot
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rofl attacking me

and clearly you seem to only attack others to justify your own tr0ll actions, a really bad move there

ban this k1d
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bl1tz says

I feel as a member of our community I need to make my own input on the situation. Also, as an AMERICAN member of the community, a community in which so many of its members are racist towards AMERICANS, I doubt I will get anything beyond a glossing look over this post. Nevertheless, as I was once a team mate with Met on team ANGF (Argentina No Good Fades) I feel compelled to voice my thoughts on his behalf.

Here are the facts of the situation:

-Met has improved as a player. I remember a game when I was commanding and I was trying to push a 2nd hive going up, and after deliberately giving orders and telling everyone to proceed to the hive push and wondering why the fuck only half of my marines were there, I looked around the map and I saw Met welding a resource node in double. I bet I wouldn't catch him doing that again.

-Met is willing to take on important roles. I can't tell you how often I have been captain and I ask, "Does anyone want to fade? Does anyone want to lerk?" and I'm met with radio silence (unless if Dreaming Fairy or Met is on my team). I can't speak for everyone that captains frequently, but I do know that some of us actually do not enjoy lifeforming every game, including myself.

-Met is reliable. When I registered my team to the Argentinian nightcup, one of them could not figure out in his own incompetency how to launch the game. The other couldn't set an alarm clock. It was Met who saved my team, who stepped in as a merc and allowed our team to prevail as the Argentinian World Champions. Messi would be proud.

-Met will try to listen. Unlike aldebaran, zups, or a handful of other mother fuckers in this community, if I tell Met to do something and if he's able to hear me over the jirikis and eisteets slobbering over their microphones to back seat command, I will watch him on the map and try to do what I ask of him.

-Europeans are easily triggered by Met simply by what he says, not what he does. This is a phenomenon that is equal parts sad and equal parts hilarious.

But no, seriously. If you ban Met then why not other people? The game in which he allegedly broke the 'rules' was unmistakably over. I don't know why anyone in their right mind would pretend otherwise just to get a ban on someone. I doubt anyone else will get banned for similar measures, which is unfair. Why not ban me for my emotional outbursts? Why not ban zups for doing whatever the fuck he wants and f4ing when he thinks the game is over, and then prolonging the game at other times? Why not ban aldebaran for not listening? Why not Dag Kam for arguing for days if he could? Why not ban jiriki for disrupting voice comms after being asked to keep them clear repeatedly by multiple players? Why not ban Fairy for being high as a fucking kite while he plays? Why not ban slipknot for being intoxicated out of his mind while he plays? Why not ban Gohan for not understanding English?




ty bl1tz for your input here. Further, it was an honor carrying you and Team ANGF to becoming the Argentinian World Champions of NS1.

p.s. If you are ever again in search of CAL-main (CAL-p calibre) skill, please do keep in touch.

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All in favour of banning jiriki?
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"a community in which so many of its members are racist towards AMERICANS"

Sorry Blitz but that is actually not true.

- Met does not count as American because he insists that he lives in Hong Kong?

- We are only "racist" towards you and meta4 :-P.
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It's a general problem which exists for a longer time during the gather games. The ENSL has a Code of Conduct (1) but violations against it doesn't get punished. And if they get punished it looks more like a Crane's Court Case (2) from the outside.

In this special case I would say 2.a.i. of the Code of Conduct has been violated. But thats only my personal opinion.

To handle things like that there should be a transparent and fair way for everybody i.e. a tribunal which gets replenished from a pool of willing people to get the decision away from one single person who get's influenced from the community.

Punishments should be inspired by "Sissa ibn Dahir" (3) exponential function which looks like:
y = 2*^(n-1)
where "n" is the amount of bans and y is days

Create a wall of shame.
Amnesty for previous bans.
#unbanMeta4

links:
(1) Code of Conduct: https://www.ensl.org/articles/1068
(2) Cranes Court Case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-dJPoSlPfU&feature=youtu.be&t=16
(3) Sissa ibn Dahir: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sissa_(mythical_brahmin)
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thanks for your constructive reply Bacsu.

Also I have to add that strictly speaking blitz is right. A ban of Met would probably lead to some inconsistent treatment.
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Thanks for this guy, very entertaingin to read !

Also as Bacsu said there is no consistency in upholding the rules, therefore noone really gives a shit anymore.
It is partly the reason why this "community" is so fucking toxic that no sane person would play NS sober.

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nobody cares what i think but im throwin my two cents in

mets come a long way, but maybe him getting punished somehow for pissing off almost every player wouldnt be the worst thing?

also how long is meta4 banned for? whats going on with that? i liked to watch him play, hes like thee most intense player

ps: gobots a good comm :)
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JACKNIFE says

ps: gobots a good comm :)




Can't take you seriously now
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yeah jacknife, common. I am at least a superb comm – "good" is an insult.

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You are all wrong in different ways, some more than others, and that's why no one will be able to resolve anything and continue to argue instead. #gorgesMatter #gorgeLiberty
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