Imho NS2 is far away from being playable.
I see no sense in playing until the comm can drop medpacks for real and you are not getting lag-killed by some random skulk every 30 secs.. not even in gathers.

'acidicX'Imho NS2 is far away from being playable.
I see no sense in playing until the comm can drop medpacks for real and you are not getting lag-killed by some random skulk every 30 secs.. not even in gathers.

hehehe with my ping (100+) and fps 68-100 with random jumps it's like invul when I am playing rines

'acidicX'Imho NS2 is far away from being playable.
I see no sense in playing until the comm can drop medpacks for real and you are not getting lag-killed by some random skulk every 30 secs.. not even in gathers.
No one said that you have to play it. People are requesting it on UWE's forums (or something similar, but gathers would be just fine, as Fana said they are just organized pub games), and I really wan't it too.
You can play the game, okay, it's playable.
The game is not finished, it can get laggy, especially towards late-game (if the map have a lot of buildings, infestation etc.)
In early-game its becoming very smooth, even on my 4 year old PC. I only run it at 30-60fps. And i still have fun with it, and so do others, daily. I don't see a reason why not to open up for gathers. It would promote both ENSL and NS2.
The commander can drop medpacks, for real. They are bugged, like alot of other things in a game in development.
Lag-killed by a skulk? He's probably lagging just as much as you, as the performance of the game mostly depend on how well the server is handling the game at this point.
That doesn't mean that you can't have fun playing it.
Opening up for gathers would need some kind of rule set, like no intended bug abusing, spamming infestation, and stuff like that. But I'm sure that it would work out just fine.
LOL noway, you suck :D just kidding!

well, then our definitions of 'playable' are very different.
Seems I'm getting older, since I knew I also had great fun playing the very buggy first versions of NS1.
I'm not bitching around, I knew NS2 had to go a long way when I prepurchased it... but I don't see any sense in wasting time for the organization of turnaments when the game is - for me - far away from offering enjoyable gameplay.
Anyway, I was just stating my opinion.

About the idea of gather. For me it's more like something that is played because clan players can't play real pcw for some reason. If 12 players who have no idea what they are doing joins gather, will that be really all right? Will it get played properly?

How's the server side right now? Does it crash often or need other manual maintenance?

I mean we probably should have the system running before the ns2 becomes really playable and we don't really know when will it be. I really agree it's far from playable yet since they don't even have all features done. Really sad thinking some real strategies with one chamber to choose from. Still if we could get this done bit earlier than the final release it would be good.

No harm in testing the water.

Incomplete or not, it's gonna be ready at some point in the future and it's better to have tested the competitive situations before making anything more serious

That was all the idea. No one here seriously thinks that the current NS2 is ready-to-competitive with a real league and stuff, probably not even the most drunk austrian. But testing the water might be a good idea, especially to leave a remark of "hey here's the real NS league crew and we do follow the development of NS2" to all the peeps who never played NS1. I rather think of it as an advertising towards ENSL.

Well if you want any good publicity you should remove all the trolls and start heavily moderating the forums again.

On topic tho I have fun playing NS2 on public and we've been playing few PCWs. Even thought there are some balance adjustments to be made and known issues with the core gameplay (commanders, gorge doesn't have any other role than healer and p/tres etc) it's been really enjoyable experience for me at least overall.

Since blind had to mention me ... dirty german ... As he said the whole idea was not tos tart a league or anything right away that is no use we all know that !

Lets just start out with a gather and maybe a pcw platform and see the respond we get and then we go on from there!

But also i am sure that you ppl realize that this is some work and we basically only have jiriki doing that stuff and he got a life too so .. dont stress ppl 8) !

ANd pls ppl there is no need to discuss the state of the game any further .. at this point it is alll SUBJECTIVE ... and the only smart person is me anyway cause i did not buy the shit in the first place ;DDD !

Greets your not so drunk austrian !

I think I agree with Nadyl. Once you start doing something, do it good. At least I'd hate to see ENSL getting introduced to NS2 community as some semi competent collection of wannnabe pubstompers.

If you've got motivated staff for this, it could be potentially awesome and very beneficial for ENSL. However, don't go headfirst into this without any plan and then quit after a few weeks. That's not good publicity at all.

A whole image change and a little bit of compromise from everyone, could end up really good. Well behaving and helping out (being humble against the newcomers) and such would be what gives us that good publicity.

We all know each other and if we get serious I don't think anyone will defy it.

ENSL looks like a family bar where everyone is drunk and telling stories that they made up long a go. People that get in, is mostly, drunkards that like to argue and brag about stuff. Normal people tend to stay away from that bar : D

Where is that bar .. it sounds AWESOME ;D !

its in our hearts eistee <3

Fuck that shit Dugi, I don't want good reputation, I just want TROLL TROLL TROLL

Trolling is what keeps ns alive

..since only trolls still play ns competitively.

when i started playing ns, it was all about flaming.
if you wanna change even THAT with ns2, well, just go to hell you fucking pussies.

While trolling is alot of fun, flaming newcomers is just not cool. Trolling them is another thing.

you mistake newcomers for fucking spastics.
show me 1 single answer that hasnt been answered around gathers. most of us even write shit on pubs if someone has a prob.

we simply dont take kindly to the new generation of "gamers". the "ZOMG I HAVE TO PRESS MOAR THEN 1 BUTTON, AND THERE HASNT BEEN A CUTSCENE FOR 20 SECS NOW"-kiddies.

until they start working on movement in ns2 thats the target group for me and thus i will continue flaming.

and frankly, i don't understand y they don't work that out. theres only oldschoolers playing ns2 anyways...

Well saebel is right there ... i mean i flame a lot too .. but if someone is new or has a problem and asks a question i ll try to help him as good as i can ! .

I mean i even told the one guy .. how to get more than 100 fps cause he did not klnow developer 1 command .. although i do not support 200 fps .. So even if we are all lowlife flamers when it counts we know how to behave .. maybe except for sub !

Greets 8) !

Yea because my well mannered and highly informed arguments on the NS2 forums about the Lerk were just silly...


What have you done for NS2 you fucking nonce? You haven't even bought it!

Hey sublime .. Pictuer me giving a DAMN ! .. and then realize that that WILL NEVER HAPPEN !

here is a kiss for you too my love puppy *kiss* !

Greets Stefan !

*tries to get the image of eistee in a pink tutu kissing a horrible disfiguered troll called sublime out of his head*