Season 12 Seeding possibilitys

We made these Seedings based on these Signups:

https://www.ensl.org/contests/365

 

Please POST only construcitve Feedback here in the Comment section.

Everything else will be moderated.

 

Seeding1) 2 Division Setup with all Teams + Possible Newcomers.

 

 

 

Seeding2) 3 Divison Setup with all Teams + Possible Newcomers.

 

 

 

Seeding3) 4 Divison Setup with all Teams + Possible Newcomers.

Mega on 26 September 17 05:16

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Blank Mega | pubstars

So i made a few possible seeding and i need everybody's opinion with good reasoning on:


1) The Ranking on each Seeding
are same.
So tell us if you agree with the Ranking of the Teams or you think a Team needs to move up or down in Ranking.
(I think its every Teams own responsibility to keep the Member list up to Date so if you have 3 Pros in your List that wont play bad luck for you i judged it after the best Players in your list and im sure other People will do the Same)


2)Which Seeding has the best Division Setup with the least skill difference.
Nobody likes to be Stomped/Totally hopeless out-skilled not in Div1 or any other Div.


3)Anything else important Seeding Related you want to tell ?
No useless information's please i tend to moderate this article a lot.

4 October 2017, 00:50

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Blank lebra | Toxicity9000

mega why is a meme team seeded higher than a couple of americunts?

4 October 2017, 01:21

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Blank Mega | pubstars

Ok lebra look just in case you didn't saw it i said bring feedback in a constructive way in the article and right above your post i said i gonna moderate a lot.

So what Team is the "meme team" and why should that be a excuse in not seeding them higher then the (what Team is the "couple of americunts") and/or other teams ?

4 October 2017, 04:56

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Blank Starcetereus | Toxicity9000

why is 2brits2many seeded at all rofl

4 October 2017, 04:56

1942

Blank Mega | pubstars

Cause you joined the Season with it ? want to be removed say yes thats done fast.

4 October 2017, 04:57

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Blank Sacrifice | Black Sun Mafia

What does hive mean ?

4 October 2017, 11:33

6335

Blank loMe | Gone Camping

Pretty sure there are some dead teams seeded in there too. Ask Wob and Grissi

4 October 2017, 13:28

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Blank herakles | Toxicity9000

Its not that hard to seed 1st div, you literally have 3 players who won last season on Gone Camping yet you seed them 5th. It should be us or them 1 and 2, then last seasons finalists (elogain) then quarter finalists etc...

You ask for constructive feedback but seeding by random pub influenced elo is a joke.

4 October 2017, 18:12

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Blank Mega | pubstars

I didn't seed everything after elo just some teams where im simply not sure that's why i need feedback thanks for that.

So it was:
1) Toxicity9000
2) Simple Plays
3) Elogain
4) one brit too many
5) GoneCamping

And now its going to be:
1) Toxicity9000
2) GoneCamping
3) Elogain
4) Simple Plays
5) one brit too many


Works fine by me will change.
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4 October 2017, 19:29

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Blank blacksuge | Black Sun Mafia

Seeding 2!

4 October 2017, 22:22

4566

Blank lebra | Toxicity9000

idk if GoneCamping are good enough for 2nd.

5 October 2017, 05:50

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Blank CRaZyCAT | Horror Show

I think 3-div seedings setup is fine but not sure it will be right to put PeaceDeath and SomethingFunny to the 3rd div in case if these NCT teams will join.

Perhaps the following divisions ratio will be optimal: 5 - 7 - 5, 5 - 6 - 5 or 5 - 5 - 4 but not 5 - 5 - 7, 5 - 5 - 6.

5 October 2017, 07:45

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Blank Handschuh | placeholder

The third number " Hive h Sumed" (or wrongly hive average) is plainly useless... rather have an average shown. Of course a team of 10 people has higher Hive hours...

5 October 2017, 08:02

1942

Blank Mega | pubstars


lebra says


idk if GoneCamping are good enough for 2nd.




Your right in some sense based on the rules:
4. Teams
(c) By the time of the deadline for signing up for any season, ALL teams must have a minimum of six (6) registered users.




CraZyCAT says


I think 3-div seedings setup is fine but not sure it will be right to put PeaceDeath and SomethingFunny to the 3rd div in case if these NCT teams will join.

Perhaps the following divisions ratio will be optimal: 5 - 7 - 5, 5 - 6 - 5 or 5 - 5 - 4 but not 5 - 5 - 7, 5 - 5 - 6.




The 3 Division setup is the most likely setup to do.

1st Division 5 Looks good and everyone agreed that i have been asking so far.
2nd Division with 6 Teams could be alright with either peace death or something funny going up
3rd Division Hopefully peace death or something funny not gonna roll this.

I think Sacrifice or Moadib or Frozen or Preda don't belong into the same Division as the Newcomers (Guys take this as a compliment)
So if we switch ranking of something funny and Peace death and if its true that Sacrifice is not going to play in Peace Death we end up with 4-5 Teams in Div3.




Handschuh says


The third number " Hive h Sumed" (or wrongly hive average) is plainly useless... rather have an average shown. Of course a team of 10 people has higher Hive hours...




If you are interested in the Average just calculate the Hive/Hours /trough/ Players.
The thing is that would not work the other way around Average*Membernumbers that number would not be accurate at all.

Anyway sure i will put that Average up in a different field.

5 October 2017, 16:16

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Blank Deck | something funny

I think 4 divisions is a little wild Mega, but I appreciate the effort. Something funny has changed some members, we are building a div 2 team to challenge for it all.

5 October 2017, 18:48

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Blank Mega | pubstars

Moved Peace Death from Ranking 13 to Ranking 12 and Something Funny from 13 to 12 what would make in a 3 Division setup Division 3 instead of Division 2 for Peace Death and Div2 instead of Div3 for something funny.
On Seeding 2

On Seeding 1 and 3 Nothing changed for them.

I also added Elo summed up
and Hive Hours average for Handschuh

Please keep the feedback coming.

5 October 2017, 19:45

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Blank vipko | team.ru

Seeding 2!

5 October 2017, 21:20

1949

Blank Made_in_Russia | team.ru

Seeding 2 pls)

5 October 2017, 21:23

2104

Blank phonee | one brit too many

RUSSIANS TRYNA HOAX SEASON AGAIN???

let's do seeding 1

6 October 2017, 06:57

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Blank Golden | Toxicity9000

I think seeding 1 would be the best option

6 October 2017, 06:58

6335

Blank loMe | Gone Camping

I dunno if Golden is toxic enough for Toxicity9000

6 October 2017, 14:36

6881

Blank Luftwaffel | 8bitgamers

I like Seeding 2. With Sacrifice not playing for PeathDeath, I think this is as fair as it can get.

6 October 2017, 17:07

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Blank infamous | placeholder

Option 2 is fine with me. I think option 1 will be really unfair to the lower skill div 2 teams (NCT teams playing with horror show and pubstars).

6 October 2017, 20:43

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Blank RolliePollie | Pell-Mell

I agree with Infamous, option 2 is good. NCT teams should not be in the same div as Horror or Pubstars.

7 October 2017, 14:29

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Blank Deck | something funny

oh yea placeholder and pell-mell like the 3 div setup. But yeah, I think it makes the most sense too.

7 October 2017, 17:20

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Blank BauerJankins | one brit too many

i don't think placehold would enjoy being in div 1, they have had a lot of trouble playing against div1 mixes alone. I don't know about pell mell, they'll probably know what's best for them.
At the same time though I don't think putting those 2 teams together with HS and somethingfunny is going to end well, I might be wrong because I dont know most of those teams well. Just judging by the players here.
With that being said i THINK a small div2 (definitely put TA in there btw) would be the best option overall.
Maybe option 2 and move up pell mell to div 1? then maybe move one team from div 3 up to div 2 to even the divs out? dont know how big the skill gap is overall

7 October 2017, 17:45

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Blank RolliePollie | Pell-Mell

We really should not be div 1. We lost ryssk and ypsi over the summer and none of us have played any ns2 since last season.
Horror show should definitely be div 2, crazycat always puts good teams together and I reakon if seedings stay as they are they will have a good chance of winning it. Ask crazycat I'm sure he will agree.

7 October 2017, 17:54

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Blank Deck | something funny

I agree with Rollie, I think placeholder is more of a div 1 candidate than pell mell at this point. Always tough to judge bottom of div 1 with top of div 2.

7 October 2017, 19:27

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Blank BauerJankins | one brit too many

then i think option 2 is the best way to go for sure

7 October 2017, 20:05

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Blank Mega | pubstars

Thanks for the latest input People.

1st) the Team Saunabois got added in Rank 16 is that fine or move up or down ?
gl and hf in the Season Saunabois.

2nd) Based on on your feedback from the last posts.
Ranking of Pell-Mell and Placeholder got switched Pell-Mell from Rank 5 to 6 and Placeholder from Rank 6 to 5.

i did not move placeholder up into div1 yet in seeding2 what would result in a Div1_6, Div2_5, Div3_5 instead of Div1_5, Div2_6, Div3_5 like it is at the moment.
But it might make sense needs more opinions about this.


3rd) I sorted Seeding3 with the 4 Division setup new, in the sense that i moved "onebrit too many" from div1 to div2 and "Horror Show" from div2 to div3 and "8bitGamers" from div3 to div4.

For the Simple reason to have from Div1 to Div4, 4 Teams in each Division what should be the bare minimum. (at least in my opinion) if this Setup don't work Seeding3 is simply not working
and Seeding1 or Seeding2 has to be chosen.


4) If i count votes so far Seeding2 won by most peoples opinion.


So keep the Feedback coming guys.

7 October 2017, 20:59

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Blank phonee | one brit too many

put pell mell in div1 dont elt kmacg hoax u

12 October 2017, 02:07

1942

Blank Mega | pubstars

I updated all the Seedings and
after listening to more feedback i moved Placeholders to Division1

So we are most likely going with Seeding Number 2.

Thank you everyone for your input

12 October 2017, 02:20

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Blank BauerJankins | one brit too many

are you shitting me placeholder and pell mell are the exact same skill, and im sure during the season pell mell will improve beyond that of placeholder. if anything those 2 teams should be in the same division

12 October 2017, 13:36

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Blank RolliePollie | Pell-Mell

We have only played 2pcws so far. First one we beat something funny 4-0. Second one we lost to Horror Show 0-4 with all games lasting less than 15mins. If you move us you should definitely move Horror Show too.

12 October 2017, 18:08

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