Season 15: Week 2 Predictions!

Week 2 Preds!


Ok, due to the lack of HLTV demos I'll do my part a little different this week. First of all, the things I learned from the few HLTV demos right now:


  • Ninelegends are simply a few steps ahead TeamF in general

  • Gorgerush is rusty on their teamwork and especially skulkwork isn't up to the challenges. Makaveli's shotgun is still deadly though.

  • U GO/Trolls are doing generally fine, although they seem to be lacking a voluntary commander.


Apparently there are some more demos available somewhere, but so far I haven't seen them anywhere. I'll check them out if someone points out where to find them.

In case you've seen something interesting on the HLTV on week 1, please contribute with comments. Right now any piece of information is appreciated greatly.


-Bacillus



250 de ping vs teampol


250 de ping: Opened with a 2-2 tie against the newly founded Not Homophobic.

Teampol: Lost 3-1 to Changin THE METAGAME on week 1.


Not much to add to last week's early analysis. I think 250 de ping is higher skill wise, but usually their lack of overall strategical routine has stopped them from claiming wins against tougher teams. TeamPol on the other hand lacks the overall all around big hitters to finish succesful SG pushes and lifeforms to survive to the 2 hives on aliens.


My prediction is 3-1 for 250 de Ping, taking both rounds on Metal.



New Team vs Anonym Anti Anti A.


New Team: Opened with a 4-0 win against 2Ram

Anonym Anti Anti A: Hasn't played any games yet.


The AAAA being in the activity shape they are, I don't think they are going to be much of a match against New Team.

My pred is 4-0 for New Team, if this gets played at all.



2RAM vs Stray Dogs


2RAM: Lost 4-0 new team on week 1.

SD: No matches so far this season.


Total blindshot without having the demos. In general, I think the Argentians are slightly ahead in skill, while SD comes back with teamwork and strategy. As whole, I think SD is a bit stronger of a team.


3 - 1 for SD, although the (Lucid/Metal) mapcycle is pretty nasty for taking marine wins.



Not Homophobic vs changin THE METAGAME


Not Homophobic: 2-2 vs 250 de ping on week 1.

Changin THE METAGAME: Won 3-1 against TeamPol on week 1.


I think this is going to be relatively even. Both teams are fielding a solid basic lineup, but both also lack the exceptional powerhouses to make the difference. My notoriously inaccurate predictor sense is slightly twinkling towards a Not Homophobic win, but I think the maps are going to turn this into a tie.


2-2, alien tie.



TrC's predictions:



I would hope to see demos next week referees!

Here we go


TeaM Fantasy vs Danny Est Gros


Team Fantasy faced Ninelegends in their first ensl 15 round resulting on almost completely one-sided defeat. Fantasy's week activity is rising hopefully resulting in more even games as the season progressess and players rub the rust off but the lack of actual roles still hurt. Team play wise Fantasy's gameplay was a total wreck from speed to positioning, if they plan on having any chance at all they must fix the basics first.


Danny Est Gros took more or less easy 4-0 from prostokvashino in the first round. Ignoring the Dannyism, their lineup consists late(?) take over members and judging from their pcwing in last week they have not lost the edge. While the team may lack "pro" fades most of DeGs can fade pretty adequately which favors them if the game progressess to the very late game.


Danny est Gros has the advantage here but few unlucky fades / rt pushes may turn the game even


I bet very bold 2-2



prostokvashino vs CAL-NS


prostokvashino first round 4-0 loss against DeGs doesnt really give the right picture, russians have a few good and active players that really can rival their previous opponent which leaves me to doubt their activeness as a team. It is clear that these players have played with each other in past and I can see them only improving throughout the season, they are forminable opponent especially with their best lineup.


CAL-NS managed to pull off 1 round of TROLLS apparently through latency issues which isnt really a new thing in cross continent games (Especially against TROLLS). CAL-NS has quite a few well-known players even in europe but team seems to be more like mix regardless I know too little to say anything specific.


Due latency and fps problems on both maps this could really go both way I find 4-0 to either very unlikely.


I vote 3-1 to prostokvashino



TROLLS vs Saunamen


Saunamen are making appearence once again while perhaps not in top notch still extremely deadly. Tane's shotgun especially was devastating in early stage pcw against TeaM Fantasy, although I maybe wrong Saunamens activity is quite limited to jiriki-Tane combo and these two will play huge role in next match. I'm curious to see who is going to comm as jiriki is quite capable in the field aswell, perhaps Peacham? I think not.


TROLLS reminded us that they are capable by beating CAL-ns in round 1 and I bet they are happy to leave perhaps the last over continent battle behind. If you have followed NS competitive these names probably stand out not only because they are where the drama is but seer strength that allows them to play at the finals/semifinals in both seasons and nightcups. Everyone is capable of every lifeform but I would be surprised to not see Sublime lerking and aA / multi fading.


Most likely the match of the week spectators keep an eye out for this, hopefully we'll get this shoutcasted , I would give TROLLS the favor due having played already at first week and less lineup "problems".


3-1 to TROLLS.




That's it for this week. Supply us with some interesting demos and there should be some extra coverage.

-Bacillus


Bacillus on 17 October 10 05:56

Comments

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Blank Snail | 250 de ping

3-1 to prostokvashino? lol i definitively disagree xd

17 October 2010, 07:00

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Blank NecRos_aka_Orgad | Team Three

ddamnit were never getting long predictions for newteam D:

17 October 2010, 07:02

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Blank Snail | 250 de ping

hard to make long preds without demos !

17 October 2010, 07:04

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Blank gobot | Stray Dogs

bac: sd vs 2ram. Maybe just search in the game history and compare :o

17 October 2010, 07:06

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Blank Tane | Vanquish

You do realize that saunamen have as many players as TROLLS from last champions? Not to mention that Saunamen have lost only one match in last four years(LOLSTEAMROLL is not saunamen), and have won four ENSL seasons and three night cups. In every competition we have entered, we have won it.
Still it's good to be underdogs, while I don't understand why people understimate players like leipa or Nade.

17 October 2010, 07:51

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Blank dugi

It's oke tane, don't worry. It might even be a 4-0 ;D.

17 October 2010, 07:57

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Blank gobot | Stray Dogs

multi will carry. Sry tane

17 October 2010, 07:59

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Blank GibbZ | 9L

I agree with Tane for once. LeoN and Nade are awesome players. I always loved getting Nade to merc because he has this innate teamwork. However, I reckon trolls hold the edge. aA multi and dugi still play frequently and it shows. I can't see sauna out performing them with current activity.

17 October 2010, 08:11

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Blank qtm | Flatline-Ns

Yeah, i hope it's going to be interesting match atleast. I'm very pissed i can't participate in this one, because of the finnish defense forces. I wish the best of luck for my team, i believe in you guys.

17 October 2010, 08:42

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Blank GibbZ | 9L

go make fires and blow up trees or something kuitmo

17 October 2010, 08:44

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Blank mirez | eyjafjallajökull

aamuja kuitmo :)

17 October 2010, 08:49

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Blank aA

'Tane'You do realize that saunamen have as many players as TROLLS from last champions? Not to mention that Saunamen have lost only one match in last four years(LOLSTEAMROLL is not saunamen), and have won four ENSL seasons and three night cups. In every competition we have entered, we have won it.
Still it's good to be underdogs, while I don't understand why people understimate players like leipa or Nade.


i told ikarus to set rally point in hive already, sorry dude but there is no power to stop me! ; D

17 October 2010, 09:16

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Blank Tweadle

only the mighty internet superheroes were able to stop saunamen

17 October 2010, 10:35

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Blank GibbZ | 9L

;)

17 October 2010, 10:54

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Blank Fana | Archaea

It doesn't really matter how many tournaments you've won in the past, when you can't even get six to play the match...

TaneIn every competition we have entered, we have won it.

Season 2? Oops.

17 October 2010, 11:51

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Blank Tane | Vanquish

"In last four years", counting from NSNC6 and I played in Levitacus during ENSL2.

17 October 2010, 12:22

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Blank Fana | Archaea

That's not the way it reads, but if you say that's what you meant I'll take your word for it.

Saunamen is still Saunamen without you.

17 October 2010, 12:35

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Blank Tane | Vanquish

Point is that national clan’s players have always been underestimated. Scale is good example, he was one the Levitacus worst players, that doesn't mean he was a bad player, far from it. But when he joined 9L, people actually thought that he was above his former teammates.

17 October 2010, 13:18

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Blank Fana | Archaea

One of your worst players? His Lerk carried your alien rounds for years. Ridiculous.

17 October 2010, 13:52

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Blank aA

do you really feel so under rated by ppl tane? i have no ideas where do you get all that conceptions of yours ; D

17 October 2010, 16:03

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Blank phone | V@nquish

3-1 prediction?????? ya right, 1-3 L2P(redict)

17 October 2010, 20:13

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Blank Tane | Vanquish

You kind prove my point here Fana, how you clearly rate Scale above likes of Leon or Inva, but it was Scale who was most often cut from match.
It's good that you know other clans business better than their in-game leaders. Especially when I have played with Scale from early 2.0 to late 3.1 in same clan, and all that time I was his in-game leader.
But he was by far most limited player in Levitacus and therefore not same level likes of Leon, Inva, Talis or Hopsu. Sure, he was one the best lerks ever and really good lmger, but apart from that he was nothing.

17 October 2010, 23:53

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Blank d-

Scale was awesome. Mad as shit and a great carry lerk. I'm confused though Tane; where you mention "He was a great lerk and a really good lmger but apart from that he was nothing" Surely that's all he needed to be?

18 October 2010, 01:52

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Blank Tane | Vanquish

I guess so in 3.2 standards. If he died early, it was like playing five players because he never learned to skulk. As marine Peach as well saw his limitation for teamwork and didn't want him for his clan.

18 October 2010, 02:41

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Blank frG | TROLLS

Why are we bashing Scale, you are such a noob Tane.

18 October 2010, 03:49

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Blank enigmatic | 9L

people don't rate leipa and nade because they're both ridiculously bad, duh.

18 October 2010, 04:12

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Blank meb | Damage Networks

who cares

play your match already so I can smurf as flayra on hltv

18 October 2010, 04:14

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Blank Fana | Archaea

TaneIt's good that you know other clans business better than their in-game leaders.

I don't actually, I'm merely stating an obvious fault in your reasoning. You even admit it yourself: "he was a great lerk" (and lmger).

He was your only cele Lerk capable player, one of the most capable in Europe at that, during 3.0 and 3.1, two versions of the game where cele Lerks were the cornerstone of good alien play. To call that player your worst... It's ridiculous. There's no other word for it.

Bear in mind, this really has nothing to do with your point that this and that player are underrated. Sure, you're allowed to have that opinion. I have the same opinion of many players I've played with, as I'm sure all other captains have of their players. Ratings are opinion, we all know that shit is flawed.

(like how everyone rates my Lerk based on how I did in Knife, when I was terrible and still learning how to do it, instead of my period in nL when I was actually good at it COUGH-NOT-EGO-BUTTHURT-AT-ALL-I-PROMISE).

18 October 2010, 04:24

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Blank aA

wow wtf tane

18 October 2010, 04:24

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Blank sublime | Spastic Colon

Scale was a retard who always died too quickly. Ille and Ins carried the fins.

And Fana. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

18 October 2010, 04:37

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Blank Tane | Vanquish

Guess I just rate teamwork and tactical knowledge too highly then, absolutely useless things! Being good as a lerk is just one drop from waterfall of skill, and I rate those players higher who master all aspect of skill.

18 October 2010, 04:54

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Blank Fana | Archaea

They'd have to be some proper Sun Tzu proteges in that case, to be rated so much higher than the single most important player on the alien side during a whole year of NS.

Bear in mind that while you accuse me of ignoring other aspects of the game, you're apparently doing exactly the same thing you accuse me of, only to the gameplay part I'm putting emphasis on. The difference is: I'm not arguing for the extreme alternative. I'm not claiming Scale was your best player, or even one of your better players, I'm just saying it's ridiculous to label him as your worst player given the circumstances.

18 October 2010, 05:51

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Blank sublime | Spastic Colon

Oh do shut up both of you; arguing about a dead game with a doomed follow-up to come.

18 October 2010, 07:07

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Blank aA

; DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD sub it actaully shows who they are, let em be ; p

18 October 2010, 07:12

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Blank Tane | Vanquish

I don't know about Fana, but I don't see debate which contains valid arguments as negative thing.
Though, he lates post don't contain any new thesis, and I'm bored to create new one, so I guess you get your peace of mind.

18 October 2010, 08:21

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Blank Fana | Archaea

Yeah, pretty much agree with what Tane just said.

18 October 2010, 09:58

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Blank frG | TROLLS

FUCKING

18 October 2010, 10:50

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Blank dugi

RETARDS

18 October 2010, 10:51

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Blank Tweadle

Let's just build a wall around Scale and leave him in peace.

19 October 2010, 05:40

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Blank GibbZ | 9L

I got it thom

19 October 2010, 05:59

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Blank enigmatic | 9L

Wallfrica

19 October 2010, 07:10

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Blank GibbZ | 9L

Now it's just lost the subtle humour niggz...

19 October 2010, 08:48

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Blank qin

Had already forgotten that one, lol

19 October 2010, 09:28

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Blank Strife | 250 de ping

'Tweadle'only the mighty internet superheroes were able to stop saunamen


I remember that match, i dont know what the hell sauna try to pull with that marine strat, plus they got rolled at the beggining all dying.

19 October 2010, 09:43

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Blank GibbZ | 9L

If you look at the biggest upsets caused to saunamen, behind the scenes you will always see me and enigmatic.

The sR 2-2 sauna game imo was more impressive. We almost made it 3-1 with an argueably weaker roster than "Isho".

Ahh nothing like being the underdog. Those games were so fun.

19 October 2010, 09:55

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Blank Strife | 250 de ping

(had to check it, didnt remember)
Someone drop on that one :p

19 October 2010, 10:52

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Blank sublime | Spastic Colon

What the fuck is up with this Strife guy!? He can speaka the English better than 99% of the people here!

19 October 2010, 16:11

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Blank enigmatic | 9L

My godlike lerking was the reason they lost

19 October 2010, 23:13

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Blank Aleksi | FINNSTACK

"Fantasy's week activity is rising"

YEAH RIGHT :=D

19 October 2010, 23:46

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Blank qin

DOESN'T ANYONE REMEMBER THE DAY SANITY BEAT EL'PHEER WITH IP RUSH IN ORIGIN?

20 October 2010, 03:04

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Blank enigmatic | 9L

the only thing i remember about sanity was that it was among the few teams my clan(rapido) was able to beat. If only just once ;P

20 October 2010, 06:01

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Blank EisTeeAT

Yeah Yeah .. good old times .. yada yada yada --- enough alrdy noone cares anymore !

20 October 2010, 06:31

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Blank Citrus

I care! you fag! dugi is my friend, don't hurt him.

20 October 2010, 08:25

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Blank dugi

TERVE CITRUSKIIIII ;D

20 October 2010, 09:41

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Blank Citrus

MOROOOOO kuis käsi käyp??

20 October 2010, 10:28

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Blank SaperioN | Flatline-Ns

saunamen got flatlined too often...

21 October 2010, 06:13

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