Season 9 seedings.

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The current season 9 seedings are up, please pay attention to the most left column, this doc will be updated by Vindaloo and myself actively(after we discuss changes with other admins). Please share this doc as much as you can to get more opinions on the seedings. Post any constructive feedback you have in this topic. Please give proper arguments if you want your team to be moved. You can always plan seeding matches with another team.(this can just be a pcw)

seedings: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LwQIju5WcfOfVjhESHUyI8wd5DfzPWfTPL3OL81DIkc/edit?usp=sharing
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I feel that Flightless Lerks should be ranked higher than TAW.af. TAW.af seems to be pretty much TAWtoise, which we've consistently 4-0d. I only bring this up because it seems like it could be the difference between us being in div 2 or div 3.
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#3
can just do a seeding match. but i think the breakout is
Div1:
Chams
Vanguish
Mikillaeti
Pell-Mell
I'm Disappointing
Just the Tip

Div 2:
Like a Glove
Seize & Decyst
TAW.af
Flightless Lerks
Tawmageddon
+someone else

Div3:
Potent
S+
Funnybubblers
ATV
Angry Chickens
F4
.js
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jope says
can just do a seeding match. but i think the breakout is
Div1:
Chams
Vanguish
Mikillaeti
Pell-Mell
I'm Disappointing
Just the Tip

Div 2:
Like a Glove
Seize & Decyst
TAW.af
Flightless Lerks
Tawmageddon
+someone else

Div3:
Potent
S+
Funnybubblers
ATV
Angry Chickens
F4
.js


This looks pretty reasonable, I just assumed there would be 4 divisions. We could try and do a seeding match sometime this weekend.
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I feel that Flightless Lerks should be ranked higher than TAW.af. TAW.af seems to be pretty much TAWtoise, which we've consistently 4-0d. I only bring this up because it seems like it could be the difference between us being in div 2 or div 3.


.af is the best players from TAWtoise... a lineup which I believe you never played. I would say you guys are equally matched personally, but would like to see you guys play each other either way.

and tbh, I would hope to see 4 divisions... there are normally at least a few teams that sign up last minute and the 3 division lineup above would (I believe) lead to TAWmageddon having a low chance of winning rounds, let alone matches.
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Lol seize will roll div 2. need them in div 1
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you guys are FOOLS IM PALYING DIV 1 WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT


but seirously ive crushed (some of) these div1 teams in scrims (With some mercs, sure but my players are just as capable)

what does seeding match consist of? 2 maps? im not satisfied until i play every div1 team.

bring on the games BOYS ILL TAKE U ON ANY WEEKEND LETS CAST THIS SHIT


breakup IS THIS JOPE YOURE CLUELESS


Div1:
Chams
Vanguish
Mikillaeti
Pell-Mell
I'm Disappointing
seize & decyst
Just the Tip


Div 2:
Like a Glove
TAW.af
Flightless Lerks
Tawmageddon


Div3:
Potent
S+
Funnybubblers
ATV
Angry Chickens
F4
.js



I REFUSE TO PLAY DIV2 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ FUCKTH EHATERS

7 man DIV 1 THIS SHIT IS RESSURECTED
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#8
I agree, seize & decyst should be in D1, we've already scrimmed another team seeded D1 and held our own so I think we do belong there, might not be the best team there but I doubt we'll be the worst.
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We are going for equal splits for each div, else it screws up the schedule. Regarding seeding matches, just play 4 rounds on 2 maps from the map pool in the rules, please do it before Saturday 5th at 10 am cet
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We are going for equal splits for each div, else it screws up the schedule. Regarding seeding matches, just play 4 rounds on 2 maps from the map pool in the rules, please do it before Saturday 5th at 10 am cet


cmon man, if you want ENSL to prosper and have an actual SEASON 9. you gotta make an exception to this even splits thing. consider adding flightless lerks to d1 they've talked about how they wanna play more d1 teams, throwing them into a hard league would probably make them scrim and be more active WHO KNOWS. i do know that cutting any of these 7 teams from div1 would ruin it. player retention from s9 would be shit since whoever gets the short end of the stick isnt gonna think it's worth practicing/scrimming

look @ season 8 you had like 6 d1 teams, and only 2 of those teams were ACTUALLY close to each other in skill level. here we have literally 4-5 teams that could potentially have really good games versus each other, dont RUIN this opportunity. maybe the top 2 teams are decided, but everyone else still has a chance.

MAYBE you'll actually have an interesting group stages season 9 if you fit 7 teams in div1. youre gonna have an uneven split sOMEWHERE if 1 more team signs up (OTPHJ could be a decent div2 team with the right players)

Div1:
Chams
Vanguish
Mikillaeti
Pell-Mell
I'm Disappointing
Just the Tip
seize & decyst

Div 2:
Like a Glove
TAW.af
Flightless Lerks
Tawmageddon
OTPHJ
Angry Chickens

Div3:
Potent
S+
Funnybubblers
ATV
F4
.js
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The signups are not over yet, expecting teams like Gief to join us. If the case really warrants it, we can have little disparity in group sizes, however we prefer groups of 5-6 xor 7-8. Don't forget to post results of recent pcws/scrims here or send them directly to me or yalu. Thanks for the help and your input guys.

Now not as admin, TAW.af, is brand new, it takes the veterans and good players from taw and forms a team that has no real weak links enemy can exploit. I think we would be good fit for div 2. We also beat gief 3-1 in recent pcw. The team is much better than all the past TAW teams, imho.
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The signups are not over yet, expecting teams like Gief to join us. If the case really warrants it, we can have little disparity in group sizes, however we prefer groups of 5-6 xor 7-8. Don't forget to post results of recent pcws/scrims here or send them directly to me or yalu. Thanks for the help and your input guys.

Now not as admin, TAW.af, is brand new, it takes the veterans and good players from taw and forms a team that has no real weak links enemy can exploit. I think we would be good fit for div 2. We also beat gief 3-1 in recent pcw. The team is much better than all the past TAW teams, imho.


I wouldn't say "all" past TAW teams... TAWific beat HBZ in scrims once or twice if I recall correctly... ".af" is pretty much the same lineup with the addition of yourself.

And I still think that TAWmageddon is being placed in the wrong div... We can happily seed match anyone in div 2 to prove it... but we lost 4 - 0 to flightless lerks, we lost to .af and we lost to gief robot...
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...with the addition of yourself.

And that's exactly why. :D

I'll show myself out now...
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I have no words about Potent and S+ are higher than FunnyBubblers.
If only TAW teams can play at 20 CET or earlier, we could play a seeding matches.
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#15
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I feel that Flightless Lerks should be ranked higher than TAW.af. TAW.af seems to be pretty much TAWtoise, which we've consistently 4-0d. I only bring this up because it seems like it could be the difference between us being in div 2 or div 3.


+1

We also haven't beaten flightless when reformed as taw.af
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Who cares about taw B)
jk..... seize&@@@ beat Mikillaeti in a scrim like 3 days ago, dont remember the score but might have been something like 4-0 (correct me if im wrong, no disrespect intended B) )
We also played the godar lineup, i wasnt there tho so someone else should post the score here...
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Phone's idea looks pretty good.
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Regarding seeding matches, just play 4 rounds on 2 maps from the map pool in the rules, please do it before Saturday 5th at 10 am cet


That simply won't be possible with seeding matches between EU and NA teams.
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Phone pretty much nailed it here and I mirror his feedback.
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The signups are not over yet, expecting teams like Gief to join us..


Some members of Gief are wanting to give this season a break, think they are burnt out on NS2 and some other stuff.

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Phone's seedings look good, I would just switch out angry chickens for funny bubblers. Funny bubblers is definitely the stronger team of the two, they deserve to be in div 2.
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#23
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Phone's seedings look good, I would just switch out angry chickens for funny bubblers. Funny bubblers is definitely the stronger team of the two, they deserve to be in div 2.



ya i will admit i'm not a good judge of the d2.5+ teams. some tweaks might be warranted.

Div1:
Chams
Vanguish
Mikillaeti
Pell-Mell
I'm Disappointing
Just the Tip
seize & decyst

Div 2:
Like a Glove
TAW.af
Flightless Lerks
Tawmageddon
OTPHJ
Funnybubblers


Div3:
Potent
S+
Angry Chickens
ATV
F4
.js


with star's Change. Any Objections???

also note some aussies from justthetip and like a glove should chose which team they're gonna play on (i assume justthetip players just haven't left likeaglove yet)
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Starcetereus says
Phone's seedings look good, I would just switch out angry chickens for funny bubblers. Funny bubblers is definitely the stronger team of the two, they deserve to be in div 2.



ya i will admit i'm not a good judge of the d2.5+ teams. some tweaks might be warranted.

Div1:
Chams
Vanguish
Mikillaeti
Pell-Mell
I'm Disappointing
Just the Tip
seize & decyst

Div 2:
Like a Glove
TAW.af
Flightless Lerks
Tawmageddon
OTPHJ
Funnybubblers


Div3:
Potent
S+
Angry Chickens
ATV
F4
.js


with star's Change. Any Objections???

also note some aussies from justthetip and like a glove should chose which team they're gonna play on (i assume justthetip players just haven't left likeaglove yet)


BEST seedings
also if phone's team isn't div1 my team isn't either #BoycottDiv1
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d2.5+
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TAWmageddon needs to be in div3
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TAWmageddon needs to be in div3


Would have to move a team from div 3 up to div 2 for that, otherwise there would be 7 div 1 teams, 4-5 div 2 teams, and 7 div 3 teams. So you would have to find a div 3 team that's better than TAWmageddon.
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#28
Looks like there are a few latejoiners:

Tawmageddon to div 3 as requested
DiesIrae to div 2
KelaKorvausKöyhille to div 1

It would be nice to have an additional team in div2
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Yes, Dies Irae would indeed like to be put in div 2, please :)
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FunnyBubblers has Myx and others in the team now, they are much better than TAW or Angry Chickens
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