Forum administration changes

Having accomplished what I set out to do eight months ago, I've decided to step down as forum admin. I informed jiriki I was resigning about three weeks ago and a replacement has already been found. I'm sure there'll be an announcement about that in the near future.

 

In 2009 the forums were a mess -- several players I spoke to told me flat out they didn't participate because there was no moderation. It was an embarrassment to the ENSL and may even have put some new players off trying out competitive play. I decided I wanted to try to fix this, so I contacted jiriki about setting up new forums together with the new website. After what I can only imagine were intense months of coding, the new forums were a fact. That was only the start, however. A set of strict rules and no-nonsense enforcement was needed to prevent a return to the old.

 

While many have criticized my moderation policies, you can't argue with the results.

 

When I sat down to create the rules during September 2009, I decided I needed a set of rules that would clean out all the garbage at a minimum amount of time spent. Now that the forums are functioning nicely, new rules might be in order. I'm sure my replacement already has his own plans to improve the forums.

 

I wish my replacement the best of luck and I hope that the work I put in will make a difference in the long run as well.

 

I should also note that I won't be active on the ENSL website in the future. Talk to me on IRC or drop a comment on ninelegends.com if you have any questions.

Fana on 27 April 10 03:32

Comments

203

Fi dugi

FUCKING FINALLY

27 April 2010, 08:57

1643

Hu Miglecz++

hip hip hurray? :D
being strict and ignoring everybody are 2 different things

27 April 2010, 09:11

1590

Hk doctor | Team Four

HARSH

27 April 2010, 10:45

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Gb sublime | Spastic Colon

All results due to Jiriki's gather system.

27 April 2010, 11:01

286

Ie qin

6 Months and Pictures of Lifeless Nerds thread is still going. Good job with everything else.

27 April 2010, 12:13

45

Jp aA

good job on coding forum but i wouldnt say you're a correct person to moderate forums being opened minded person and ignorant one are two very diffrent things and no i'm not saying this cause i want to attack you as you may think ; p i still wish you lots of good luck in what ever project you will do in the future fana ; )

27 April 2010, 13:02

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Fi jiriki | old people

Stop being dicks, Fana's policy was nothing abnormal. UWE forums, Steam Forums, basically any other forums have much more stricter rules. You're all just used to way too much lack of discipline!

Thanks for moderating Øivind.

ps. I coded the forums, not Fana. :p

27 April 2010, 13:43

45

Jp aA

oke ; p

27 April 2010, 14:28

878

Dk atman

sad to see you go, you did a great job moderating imo.

if people feel a need to spam shit and insults etc they ought to host a separate forum somewhere, but not on the fucking official site of the only league left

27 April 2010, 15:56

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Sl GibbZ | 9L

I dunno, there's a fine line between community banter and flaming. Fana can't distinguish between the two. While community banter is good as it makes us look stronger as a scene, if you take that as flame (and delete the posts) everytime then people will get annoyed. Still he did more good than bad for the forums fo' sure.

27 April 2010, 16:11

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Dk psyc0mus | minions

you will be missed fana just remember fana no matter what you do and where you go i will always be a fan of your fade!

27 April 2010, 16:25

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Dk psyc0mus | minions

biggest fan* sorry it would'nt let me edit my post

27 April 2010, 16:40

872

Gb ret

Dugi is dugi to the fucking end

27 April 2010, 18:53

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Gb sublime | Spastic Colon

Of course me and Dugi are going to stick the knife in - we were the biggest victims of Fana's aggressive moderation.

That being said, it was almost more fun trolling the forums with him around because it required a degree of subtlety that eludes Dugi.

More than enough people here appreciate what he's done for the community but it doesn't mean that everyone has to ascribe to that point of view.

There has to be opposition to everyone, otherwise you end up like... well... Fana

27 April 2010, 19:31

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Fi dugi

Not just the aggressive moderation, but also the "trap" he set by kicking me and frg out of ninelegends and leaving us clanless when sign-ups were closed.

27 April 2010, 19:42

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Fi naduli | Exertus

: D internet drama : D

27 April 2010, 20:12

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No Fana | Archaea

...trap? What kind of drugs are you on?

First of all: frG and I were talking about the condition of the team and we both agreed that things weren't working out and that it would be better if you two made your own team.

Second of all: If I had kicked you, it would've been for one reason, and one reason alone: you're obnoxious. Every PCW we played you'd get into an argument with someone and create a bad atmosphere in the team.

I'm not interested in starting a debate about this. If you think that somehow I created some big conspiracy against you and frG -- go ahead. My issue is with you spreading lies and disinformation.

As for the comments on the heavy handed moderation: I made my reasons for this clear in the post: I wanted rules that would completely clean up the forums at a minimum cost of time spent doing it. Now that the forums are clean, more relaxed moderation policies might be in order.

27 April 2010, 20:23

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Gb sublime | Spastic Colon

IT'S A TRAP

27 April 2010, 20:36

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Jp aA

atmosphere in nl? what are you talking about now fana? you never liked any induvality in your team, no argumenting or anything simmilar to those, there are reason why ppl dont like to play with you, if you would get off your high horse maybe ppl would treat you in a cooler way but you havent changed even a slight after all these years, sitting in the past in your glory and treating ppl they way you just do.

27 April 2010, 20:48

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Fr huhuh | Danny Est Gros

@aA's post right above :
lol, it sounds like you're describing 3/4 of the old French scene :D

27 April 2010, 21:03

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No Fana | Archaea

As nothing you say is even remotely true, aA, I'm going to limit myself to saying this: Considering I've had to kick you from 9L twice because you made everyone miserable (to the point where wltrs muted you on vent permanently), you really shouldn't be the one talking.

I'm not going to waste my time posting further comments. I trust the intelligent players will be able to see the bullshit you and dugi spew out on a daily basis for what it is without me having to type it out.

27 April 2010, 21:15

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Fr king_yo | Legendary Snails

Fana is actually a cool guy on vent or ingame and I like to play with him.

27 April 2010, 21:25

203

Fi dugi

Yeah well, I liked it when I played with thim but then BAM, kicked out.

27 April 2010, 21:41

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Fi vartija | Ant

Good luck to Fana what ever he's going to do in the future. Must have been pain in the ass to delete all those Dugi's posts. :p

And I can actually understand why someone would kick Dugi or Aa from a clan. They can rambo like hell but you can't deny their skill. Plus their actually quite nice guys.

Just my point of view of things :p

EDIT: Oh yeah. My first thoughts of 2 balls was: "Jiriki, good luck trying to command that pack of monkeys" :)

27 April 2010, 21:48

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Dk sonder | The Team

Fana: Second of all: If I had kicked you, it would've been for one reason, and one reason alone: you're obnoxious. Every PCW we played you'd get into an argument with someone and create a bad atmosphere in the team.

27 April 2010, 21:49

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Sl GibbZ | 9L

dugi... skill? Wuuuuuut.

27 April 2010, 22:09

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Jp aA

how about you stop sitting in the past fana and actaully focus on what is here and now(well that's your mud, hf diging in it and sitting in it, the more you move the deeper you are in and please dont drag me into your shit ; ))? i know you wont admit certain things cause you have to defend your ego either way.
and no i'm not "spewing" anything neither is dugi nor frg or sub that's just your movie a dramatic one, the only one who's "spewing" all about yourself is just you.

27 April 2010, 22:14

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Dk psyc0mus | minions

ahh i love drama gets things goin!! am i the only one that finds drama fun? i must be weird guess its back to fabbing to midgets for me, over and out!

27 April 2010, 22:28

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Hu Miglecz++

they fell into the trap :D
i must say thank you for not banning me

27 April 2010, 23:36

1590

Hk doctor | Team Four

everyone will be back - NS has such diverse backgrounds it makes the community unique :D - <3 Drama , and whatever you do fana GL! you'll be back :D

28 April 2010, 00:08

203

Fi dugi

1on1?

28 April 2010, 00:22

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Gb mu

fanas pretty good to play with. sometimes you need to tell him to hush up but then, who doesn't need that?


well... wltrs. and mop. bloody mutes

28 April 2010, 01:28

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Il NecRos_aka_Orgad | Team Three

wow drama.

i have one thing to say: internet arguments are like the special olympics. even if you actually try hard and win, you are still retarded.

28 April 2010, 02:53

203

Fi dugi

internet arguments are as valid as the real life ones. retarded would be if one of the points you want to prove is ACTUALLY retarded. but if i fuck up, i just say omg sorry, and nothing else. if someone else fucks up and he has the balls to deny he fucked up, then HERE COMES THE RAGE.

28 April 2010, 10:34

176

Fi jiriki | old people

Orgad, you have something against disabled people? :(

Seriously, that quote is getting ooold.

28 April 2010, 12:14

203

Fi dugi

how about this:












1on1?

28 April 2010, 12:25

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De Nerdish | NewStyleD Return

Jiriki, what NecRos is trying to say is he wants to join the special division next season.

28 April 2010, 12:30

1643

Hu Miglecz++

here comes the 3rd last season :D

28 April 2010, 12:54

286

Ie qin

Last ENSL season ever. No, really.

28 April 2010, 13:00

1716

At EisTeeAT

How can u not love dugi .. his rage is rallying ppl all over NS ! <3 !

28 April 2010, 14:38

898

Dk psyc0mus | minions

EisTee always the lover not the fighter <3

28 April 2010, 14:41

1526

Il NecRos_aka_Orgad | Team Three

hmm alpha in 2 months, beta in 5 and game in 8... seems realistic.

i guess ensl 16 will be the last one.

28 April 2010, 14:44

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Gb bHack

my offtopic posts in recruitment section where deleted everytimel =( Whilst I've seen others did the same and their posts were untouched. =(

28 April 2010, 15:09

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Gb sublime | Spastic Colon

DRAMA IS FADING

MUST REKINDLE



I LINKED FRAGGIE TO THE PLAYBOOK

28 April 2010, 15:21

203

Fi dugi

:DDDDDDDDDDD

28 April 2010, 16:04

774

Nl Arj | Ant

Gibbz: I dunno, there's a fine line between community banter and flaming. Fana can't distinguish between the two.

It's because you ARE flaming banter boy Gibbz.. nobody can distinguish that

28 April 2010, 16:43

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No Thrillseeker

Yeah, that's why I've been staying off forum. Too much BS. A pic Tweadle with a ... in his mouth. ENSL is not serious to me any more, sadly. Too much rage and crying in the competitive scene too. NSTalent drama is 1% of the drama going on here.

28 April 2010, 17:21

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Sl GibbZ | 9L

Fuck off arj please with your subjective remarks. Just because you don't like me doesn't mean you should be so one sided.

I'm more thinking of recent events when Tonee had made a recruitment post and people were giving him hints and tips. A few guys mentioned "never listen to dugi!" and other jokes (banter) relating to dugi being bad, and Fana delted them ALL. Jokes like this in my eyes are a good thing as they show community spirit. Obviously when dugi and sublime think they are cool spamming capslock "NIGGERPAKILOL", they do ruin this spirit alot.

So yea, basically, shut up Arj.

28 April 2010, 17:45

203

Fi dugi

Lately I just go niggerpakilol on sublime. And most of the time, with newcomers (NUBS) in vent I tend to make them pay attention to some strong points in the game and that stuff.

I don't go over niggerniggernigger on them. Example of this is necros, he respected me as a super epic player, I try to give him advice (on how to rambo of course) as much as I can.

Then we have the opposite situation, when I get disrespected, they fear my wrath ;D.

28 April 2010, 18:02

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Gb sublime | Spastic Colon

LOL thats rich coming from you George, considering you hang out with Jimmis. And who started that whole HILARIOUS paki joke?

Moron.

28 April 2010, 19:28

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Gb LITERALLY_GAY | 3D happy land

I am actually a nigger and I would appreciate it if you guys kept the racist, homophobic (i'm also gay [and a muslim]) comments to yourself, thanks.

28 April 2010, 21:42

203

Fi dugi

That was WAY out of line gay.

28 April 2010, 21:43

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Fr huhuh | Danny Est Gros

Lol at worthless drama.

28 April 2010, 21:46

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Il NecRos_aka_Orgad | Team Three

the gayman is the best troll ever.

28 April 2010, 21:52

45

Jp aA

gibbz i'm not sure if you should be a guy that says something about others "childish" bahavious when your recent gather event with tweadle was way beyond any border of mature person not to mention you're not a prove of your mature words at all. if you want to point out others some not cool things be a good example of yourself to them, i'm surely they will learn a lot that way ; )
anyway as long as you have a distance to things and to yourself then i'm sure you will laught when you want to.

28 April 2010, 22:13

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Dk psyc0mus | minions

are you a muslim as a religious believer? because im pretty sure that muslims teach that homosexuality is wrong or am i?

28 April 2010, 22:16

45

Jp aA

no man ; D but gl ; p

28 April 2010, 22:17

81

Gb lump

I'm under-aged, why did Fana let me view this :( now my mind is filled with devastating words such as 'obnoxious' and 'flaming'.. ARHH IT HURTS MY EYES

I THOUGHT I HAD A FATHER IN YOU FANA.. BUT YOU FAILED ME!!!!!

28 April 2010, 22:36

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Sl GibbZ | 9L

I hang out with Jimmis? You mean I play HoN with Jimmis. How does this change anything? The paki joke was actually started by esJ anyway. So please explain how it's "rich". I don't like Jimmis' attitude as much as the next?

aA, what was immature about that? I wanted to play with Tweadle, we agreed to change teams by switching Multi with me. It was fair trade, the teams would have been fair. YOU didn't want this however; YOU wanted a gain from the switch and wanted to place me and tweadle with a set of weaker players. Multi and you are both better than I and tweadle in our current state of activity. I'm not going to play a stacked gather; so refused to play.

Also aA, I don't even know why I'm responding to you. While I agree Fana wasn't the best moderator, you took it completely OTT. You practically flamed him for doing a voluntary job which did more good then bad. Fana's done 100x more for this scene then you've ever done. Half the scene won't even play with you because of your whiney attitude and your "childish" behaviour. I actually think your not a bad guy underneath and think you've matured alot. But please... you're in no position to tell me about hypocricy or what I'm doing wrong.

28 April 2010, 22:38

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Vi frG | TROLLS

GibbZ, please dont act like a fucking angel, you've done your shit now dont get upset when people remember that.

Your whole english "crew" is full of flamers and other "personalities".

28 April 2010, 23:09

45

Jp aA

the deal was: you play together and i switch with tweadle to play with multi tweadle as captain picks whoever multi wants then we play. then you turn everything on your faivour, if you can't be trust worthy on such simple things then i dunno about the rest... i didnt flame anyone not a single insult here man and i did not say he did bad work, read correctly thank you ; )
also i agree with frg that you should stop playing an angel role ; p

28 April 2010, 23:11

286

Ie qin

Clearly everyone is innocent here like always and it's all just issues fighting each other. Screw those issues.

28 April 2010, 23:37

45

Jp aA

sorry man! you're in no possition! ; D

28 April 2010, 23:41

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Sl GibbZ | 9L

Erm excuse me, that's your side of the story. You say we made a deal a different way to how tweadle and me said we made that deal. Take that as you will.

Please explain what "shit" I've done. Sure in the past I've been a twat, but I generally put that down to age. aA's named one susposed immature thing I've done recently (ofcourse conflicting arguments) and fair enough, I still disagree. I'm not claiming to be an angel; I never did claim or will claim this. No one in this scene's an angel apart from perhaps lump (and danny), who actually gets a surprising ammount of shit! I was merely saying; to stop giving fana shit, my opinions on what is banter and flaming (or good banter and bad banter), and how jokes can be a good thing for the scene (when portraying how close we actually are). I merely used dugi as an example and you get on your high-horse like I'm claiming I'm god and your bumchum dugi is a complete dickhead.

Please don't insult any of my english "crew". The only person you could perhaps talk about (who actually warrants a dick-medal/award) is sheep. That's who sheep is. He doesn't take shit. Don't generalise when people like GreeN, Tweadle and Alty (who I'm also presuming you put in this catergory) are pretty well damn "behaved" in comparison to the rest of this scene. Once again you're either blowing something up and exaggerating or making out I'm portaying myself as something I'm not.

29 April 2010, 00:18

174

Gb d-

Well this is degenerating rather rapidly!

29 April 2010, 00:31

45

Jp aA

everything is just your interpratation gibbz your movie and projection, you can always ask tweadle what was the deal cause he was the one multi was making it with ; p no hard deal(if he's your friend he will surely tell you the truth) ; p maybe you've been just dragged in if you were than you will hear my appologizes ; p althought i just saw how silly this is ; D, i'd rather play with you and have fun ; D
it's funny how all this started as one person took everything so serious that he brought out all his heavy cannons of the past and counter attacked and then ran away ; p and how simply he found so many defenders, reminds me of some very recent polish president who died in plain crash and how suddenly ppl started to say how awesome the president was and how patriotic he was, and how much he made for nation which is total bs ; p althought a week before the accident most of nation was very critise to his actions as a head of nation all you had to do was just to listen to what he says and does. now that guy lies between some really brave and patriotic heroes, which really made a lot for this country(poland ;p) and nation.

29 April 2010, 01:41

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Uk hammy

Go to bed!

29 April 2010, 01:50

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Za Tweadle

You have no idea how nice I am guys. I just take NS seriously, that's all.

29 April 2010, 01:53

1526

Il NecRos_aka_Orgad | Team Three

NS is serious business.









A dot makes it serious.

29 April 2010, 02:00

45

Jp aA

well there is still person behind that monitor ; )

29 April 2010, 02:39

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Sl GibbZ | 9L

Well that's something we can agree on. We both see the story from different sides. I told tweadle to do our deal, he came back to me and said it was a done deal only for us to find out later that you wanted another deal, so stuff happened. It was hardly a big thing anyway. We both saw it from different sides (both argueing each was right).

Also, I don't know who deleted frG's and dugi's comments but I read them, and if you want to continue this argument on steam, I've got solid experimental evidence against that.

29 April 2010, 03:32

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Lb Gorgeboobs

:( sad

29 April 2010, 04:47

872

Gb ret

Well this was fun reading befor i go to work :D now im off to work with a :) face

29 April 2010, 07:12

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Fi Tane | Saunamen

You know Gibbz, you have hurt me very deeply with your sharp flame! I cry myself to sleep every night only hoping that you would stop bullying me! He has flamed me even in shoutcast, the most public forum you can get! Is this the maturity he is referring to?

29 April 2010, 10:20

203

Fi dugi

TANE MASTER OF SARCASM

29 April 2010, 10:27

203

Fi dugi

You can guess who did gibbz ;DDDDD

29 April 2010, 10:27

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De Nerdish | NewStyleD Return

Oh cool, finally all the drama, this season was lacking of, directed into one place easy to find for all the drama queens.
Where can I donate?

29 April 2010, 11:23

203

Fi dugi

doogie17@gmail.com nerdish, go ahead. i'm the king of the drama ;D

29 April 2010, 11:35

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De SaperioN | Flatline-Ns

on the occasion of your personal description u should join dugis team..

29 April 2010, 13:11

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De blind | onFire

A shame to see the main news on ENSL page full of drama. We might need a Fana clone to delete every comment =)

29 April 2010, 13:44

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Jp aA

he'd ran away straight away same as his main form ; p

29 April 2010, 13:57

1651

Fi SyntaxOfLimbo | Stray Dogs

I'm just imaging how this would look if you all were arguing in real life. I'd pay 50 euros to see that.

29 April 2010, 14:26

878

Dk atman

complete silence, a bunch of guys staring awkwardly at the floor =)

29 April 2010, 15:06

45

Jp aA

sorry but not me ; p

29 April 2010, 15:20

898

Dk psyc0mus | minions

vote yes, on geek violence.

awkward trash talk included

29 April 2010, 15:38

872

Gb ret

Syntax has the right idea , and atman has hit the nail on the head half these people irl wouldnt even talk to another person in this way/manner but its easy behind a screen :D

29 April 2010, 16:02

203

Fi dugi

get some balls to go to the finnish meeting and you'll meet the rage machine.

you too ret.

29 April 2010, 16:10

1590

Hk doctor | Team Four

Dugi would get spawncamped irl.

29 April 2010, 16:16

203

Fi dugi

no, because I won't spawn since I won't die. UNLUCKY.

29 April 2010, 16:31

872

Gb ret

dugi if i went to the fin meeting il'd be happy to kick the shit out of you :D

29 April 2010, 19:15

898

Dk psyc0mus | minions

could you please record that? id looove to see that :D

29 April 2010, 19:21

203

Fi dugi

well ret, you'll be milking your little kid and becoming a FAG and i'll be laughing at that because I WILL BE THERE and you won't.

29 April 2010, 19:37

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De Nerdish | NewStyleD Return

Don't underestimate ret, he punches cassie all day.

29 April 2010, 19:48

203

Fi dugi

well, it's just the opposite. cassie punches ret all day.

29 April 2010, 20:07

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Gb LITERALLY_GAY | 3D happy land

children are gay, finland is gay.

29 April 2010, 20:35

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Gb LITERALLY_GAY | 3D happy land

"Well that settles it... we'll call it Finland" - some idiot in whatever century

29 April 2010, 20:36

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Gb LITERALLY_GAY | 3D happy land

"Well that settles it... I'll work a 20 hour day and we'll have a kid" - some idiot this century

29 April 2010, 20:37

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Gb sublime | Spastic Colon

I'm the king of argument you fucking spastics. If we do meet in Finland you will all cower before my might.

Dugi pales in comparison - he says he doesn't flame irl!? LOL? HOMO

29 April 2010, 21:10

1651

Fi SyntaxOfLimbo | Stray Dogs

What the shit is this? Is everyone coming to the meeting now? Then we have to rent 2 cottages.

29 April 2010, 21:20

1790

Lb Gorgeboobs

..;

29 April 2010, 22:08

872

Gb ret

cassie always beats me up shes not coming to the meeting or she will own all of us dugi

29 April 2010, 23:19

203

Fi dugi

she can't beat my sexist brutality

29 April 2010, 23:59

18

Gb mu

ns could never have a lan, too many broken pairs of glasses ;(

1 May 2010, 10:57

18

Gb mu

and awkward angry stares

1 May 2010, 10:58

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Uk Peckerwoodz

Who is this fana kid and why is he allowed to post in the news section.

2 May 2010, 16:08

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Uk Peckerwoodz

Who is this fana kid and why is he allowed to post in the news section.

2 May 2010, 16:08

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Gb sublime | Spastic Colon

Who is this peckerwoodz kid and why is he allowed to breathe oxygen?

2 May 2010, 19:23

872

Gb ret

hes not , shoot him

2 May 2010, 20:18

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Gb sublime | Spastic Colon

Maybe you should put some of your OG friends on him. Is that how you're going to raise your child incidentally? GOOD GAME

3 May 2010, 01:44

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Nl Arj | Ant

Gibbz: I'm not claiming to be an angel; I never did claim or will claim this. No one in this scene's an angel apart from perhaps lump (and danny)

you forgot to mention me Gibbz.

3 May 2010, 10:29

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Vi frG | TROLLS

DEFECATED

3 May 2010, 18:01

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