Forum administration changes
Having accomplished what I set out to do eight months ago, I've decided to step down as forum admin. I informed jiriki I was resigning about three weeks ago and a replacement has already been found. I'm sure there'll be an announcement about that in the near future.
In 2009 the forums were a mess -- several players I spoke to told me flat out they didn't participate because there was no moderation. It was an embarrassment to the ENSL and may even have put some new players off trying out competitive play. I decided I wanted to try to fix this, so I contacted jiriki about setting up new forums together with the new website. After what I can only imagine were intense months of coding, the new forums were a fact. That was only the start, however. A set of strict rules and no-nonsense enforcement was needed to prevent a return to the old.
While many have criticized my moderation policies, you can't argue with the results.
When I sat down to create the rules during September 2009, I decided I needed a set of rules that would clean out all the garbage at a minimum amount of time spent. Now that the forums are functioning nicely, new rules might be in order. I'm sure my replacement already has his own plans to improve the forums.
I wish my replacement the best of luck and I hope that the work I put in will make a difference in the long run as well.
I should also note that I won't be active on the ENSL website in the future. Talk to me on IRC or drop a comment on ninelegends.com if you have any questions.
Comments
By: dugi on 26/Apr/10 23:57
By: Miglecz++ on 27/Apr/10 00:11
being strict and ignoring everybody are 2 different things
By: doctor ( Team Four ) on 27/Apr/10 01:45
By: sublime on 27/Apr/10 02:01
By: qin on 27/Apr/10 03:13
By: aA on 27/Apr/10 04:02
By: jiriki on 27/Apr/10 04:43
Thanks for moderating Øivind.
ps. I coded the forums, not Fana. :p
By: aA on 27/Apr/10 05:28
By: atman on 27/Apr/10 06:56
if people feel a need to spam shit and insults etc they ought to host a separate forum somewhere, but not on the fucking official site of the only league left
By: GibbZ ( 9L ) on 27/Apr/10 07:11
By: psyc0mus ( minions ) on 27/Apr/10 07:25
By: psyc0mus ( minions ) on 27/Apr/10 07:40
By: ret ( Sexiest Men Alive ) on 27/Apr/10 09:53
By: sublime on 27/Apr/10 10:31
That being said, it was almost more fun trolling the forums with him around because it required a degree of subtlety that eludes Dugi.
More than enough people here appreciate what he's done for the community but it doesn't mean that everyone has to ascribe to that point of view.
There has to be opposition to everyone, otherwise you end up like... well... Fana
By: dugi on 27/Apr/10 10:42
By: naduli on 27/Apr/10 11:12
By: Fana ( Archaea ) on 27/Apr/10 11:23
First of all: frG and I were talking about the condition of the team and we both agreed that things weren't working out and that it would be better if you two made your own team.
Second of all: If I had kicked you, it would've been for one reason, and one reason alone: you're obnoxious. Every PCW we played you'd get into an argument with someone and create a bad atmosphere in the team.
I'm not interested in starting a debate about this. If you think that somehow I created some big conspiracy against you and frG -- go ahead. My issue is with you spreading lies and disinformation.
As for the comments on the heavy handed moderation: I made my reasons for this clear in the post: I wanted rules that would completely clean up the forums at a minimum cost of time spent doing it. Now that the forums are clean, more relaxed moderation policies might be in order.
By: sublime on 27/Apr/10 11:36
By: aA on 27/Apr/10 11:48
By: huhuh ( Danny Est Gros ) on 27/Apr/10 12:03
lol, it sounds like you're describing 3/4 of the old French scene :D
By: Fana ( Archaea ) on 27/Apr/10 12:15
I'm not going to waste my time posting further comments. I trust the intelligent players will be able to see the bullshit you and dugi spew out on a daily basis for what it is without me having to type it out.
By: king_yo ( Legendary Snails ) on 27/Apr/10 12:25
By: dugi on 27/Apr/10 12:41
By: vartija ( vetus ) on 27/Apr/10 12:48
And I can actually understand why someone would kick Dugi or Aa from a clan. They can rambo like hell but you can't deny their skill. Plus their actually quite nice guys.
Just my point of view of things :p
EDIT: Oh yeah. My first thoughts of 2 balls was: "Jiriki, good luck trying to command that pack of monkeys" :)
By: sonder ( The Team ) on 27/Apr/10 12:49
By: GibbZ ( 9L ) on 27/Apr/10 13:09
By: aA on 27/Apr/10 13:14
and no i'm not "spewing" anything neither is dugi nor frg or sub that's just your movie a dramatic one, the only one who's "spewing" all about yourself is just you.
By: psyc0mus ( minions ) on 27/Apr/10 13:28
By: Miglecz++ on 27/Apr/10 14:36
i must say thank you for not banning me
By: doctor ( Team Four ) on 27/Apr/10 15:08
By: dugi on 27/Apr/10 15:22
By: mu on 27/Apr/10 16:28
well... wltrs. and mop. bloody mutes
By: NecRos_aka_Orgad ( Team Three ) on 27/Apr/10 17:53
i have one thing to say: internet arguments are like the special olympics. even if you actually try hard and win, you are still retarded.
By: dugi on 28/Apr/10 01:34
By: jiriki on 28/Apr/10 03:14
Seriously, that quote is getting ooold.
By: dugi on 28/Apr/10 03:25
1on1?
By: Nerdish ( NewStyleD Return ) on 28/Apr/10 03:30
By: Miglecz++ on 28/Apr/10 03:54
By: qin on 28/Apr/10 04:00
By: EisTeeAT on 28/Apr/10 05:38
By: psyc0mus ( minions ) on 28/Apr/10 05:41
By: NecRos_aka_Orgad ( Team Three ) on 28/Apr/10 05:44
i guess ensl 16 will be the last one.
By: bHack ( UK ) on 28/Apr/10 06:09
By: sublime on 28/Apr/10 06:21
MUST REKINDLE
I LINKED FRAGGIE TO THE PLAYBOOK
By: dugi on 28/Apr/10 07:04
By: Arj ( Netherlands ) on 28/Apr/10 07:43
It's because you ARE flaming banter boy Gibbz.. nobody can distinguish that
By: Thrillseeker on 28/Apr/10 08:21
By: GibbZ ( 9L ) on 28/Apr/10 08:45
I'm more thinking of recent events when Tonee had made a recruitment post and people were giving him hints and tips. A few guys mentioned "never listen to dugi!" and other jokes (banter) relating to dugi being bad, and Fana delted them ALL. Jokes like this in my eyes are a good thing as they show community spirit. Obviously when dugi and sublime think they are cool spamming capslock "NIGGERPAKILOL", they do ruin this spirit alot.
So yea, basically, shut up Arj.
By: dugi on 28/Apr/10 09:02
I don't go over niggerniggernigger on them. Example of this is necros, he respected me as a super epic player, I try to give him advice (on how to rambo of course) as much as I can.
Then we have the opposite situation, when I get disrespected, they fear my wrath ;D.
By: sublime on 28/Apr/10 10:28
Moron.
By: LITERALLY_GAY ( 3D happy land ) on 28/Apr/10 12:42
By: dugi on 28/Apr/10 12:43
By: huhuh ( Danny Est Gros ) on 28/Apr/10 12:46
By: NecRos_aka_Orgad ( Team Three ) on 28/Apr/10 12:52
By: aA on 28/Apr/10 13:13
anyway as long as you have a distance to things and to yourself then i'm sure you will laught when you want to.
By: psyc0mus ( minions ) on 28/Apr/10 13:16
By: aA on 28/Apr/10 13:17
By: 360ms on 28/Apr/10 13:36
I THOUGHT I HAD A FATHER IN YOU FANA.. BUT YOU FAILED ME!!!!!
By: GibbZ ( 9L ) on 28/Apr/10 13:38
aA, what was immature about that? I wanted to play with Tweadle, we agreed to change teams by switching Multi with me. It was fair trade, the teams would have been fair. YOU didn't want this however; YOU wanted a gain from the switch and wanted to place me and tweadle with a set of weaker players. Multi and you are both better than I and tweadle in our current state of activity. I'm not going to play a stacked gather; so refused to play.
Also aA, I don't even know why I'm responding to you. While I agree Fana wasn't the best moderator, you took it completely OTT. You practically flamed him for doing a voluntary job which did more good then bad. Fana's done 100x more for this scene then you've ever done. Half the scene won't even play with you because of your whiney attitude and your "childish" behaviour. I actually think your not a bad guy underneath and think you've matured alot. But please... you're in no position to tell me about hypocricy or what I'm doing wrong.
By: frG ( TROLLS ) on 28/Apr/10 14:09
Your whole english "crew" is full of flamers and other "personalities".
By: aA on 28/Apr/10 14:11
also i agree with frg that you should stop playing an angel role ; p
By: qin on 28/Apr/10 14:37
By: aA on 28/Apr/10 14:41
By: GibbZ ( 9L ) on 28/Apr/10 15:18
Please explain what "shit" I've done. Sure in the past I've been a twat, but I generally put that down to age. aA's named one susposed immature thing I've done recently (ofcourse conflicting arguments) and fair enough, I still disagree. I'm not claiming to be an angel; I never did claim or will claim this. No one in this scene's an angel apart from perhaps lump (and danny), who actually gets a surprising ammount of shit! I was merely saying; to stop giving fana shit, my opinions on what is banter and flaming (or good banter and bad banter), and how jokes can be a good thing for the scene (when portraying how close we actually are). I merely used dugi as an example and you get on your high-horse like I'm claiming I'm god and your bumchum dugi is a complete dickhead.
Please don't insult any of my english "crew". The only person you could perhaps talk about (who actually warrants a dick-medal/award) is sheep. That's who sheep is. He doesn't take shit. Don't generalise when people like GreeN, Tweadle and Alty (who I'm also presuming you put in this catergory) are pretty well damn "behaved" in comparison to the rest of this scene. Once again you're either blowing something up and exaggerating or making out I'm portaying myself as something I'm not.
By: d- on 28/Apr/10 15:31
By: aA on 28/Apr/10 16:41
it's funny how all this started as one person took everything so serious that he brought out all his heavy cannons of the past and counter attacked and then ran away ; p and how simply he found so many defenders, reminds me of some very recent polish president who died in plain crash and how suddenly ppl started to say how awesome the president was and how patriotic he was, and how much he made for nation which is total bs ; p althought a week before the accident most of nation was very critise to his actions as a head of nation all you had to do was just to listen to what he says and does. now that guy lies between some really brave and patriotic heroes, which really made a lot for this country(poland ;p) and nation.
By: hammy on 28/Apr/10 16:50
By: Tweadle on 28/Apr/10 16:53
By: NecRos_aka_Orgad ( Team Three ) on 28/Apr/10 17:00
A dot makes it serious.
By: aA on 28/Apr/10 17:39
By: GibbZ ( 9L ) on 28/Apr/10 18:32
Also, I don't know who deleted frG's and dugi's comments but I read them, and if you want to continue this argument on steam, I've got solid experimental evidence against that.
By: Nec0 on 28/Apr/10 19:47
By: ret ( Sexiest Men Alive ) on 28/Apr/10 22:12
By: Tane ( Legendary Snails ) on 29/Apr/10 01:20
By: dugi on 29/Apr/10 01:27
By: dugi on 29/Apr/10 01:27
By: Nerdish ( NewStyleD Return ) on 29/Apr/10 02:23
Where can I donate?
By: dugi on 29/Apr/10 02:35
By: SaperioN ( Flatline-Ns ) on 29/Apr/10 04:11
By: blind on 29/Apr/10 04:44
By: aA on 29/Apr/10 04:57
By: SyntaxOfLimbo ( Stray Dogs ) on 29/Apr/10 05:26
By: atman on 29/Apr/10 06:06
By: aA on 29/Apr/10 06:20
By: psyc0mus ( minions ) on 29/Apr/10 06:38
awkward trash talk included
By: ret ( Sexiest Men Alive ) on 29/Apr/10 07:02
By: dugi on 29/Apr/10 07:10
you too ret.
By: doctor ( Team Four ) on 29/Apr/10 07:16
By: dugi on 29/Apr/10 07:31
By: ret ( Sexiest Men Alive ) on 29/Apr/10 10:15
By: psyc0mus ( minions ) on 29/Apr/10 10:21
By: dugi on 29/Apr/10 10:37
By: Nerdish ( NewStyleD Return ) on 29/Apr/10 10:48
By: dugi on 29/Apr/10 11:07
By: LITERALLY_GAY ( 3D happy land ) on 29/Apr/10 11:35
By: LITERALLY_GAY ( 3D happy land ) on 29/Apr/10 11:36
By: LITERALLY_GAY ( 3D happy land ) on 29/Apr/10 11:37
By: sublime on 29/Apr/10 12:10
Dugi pales in comparison - he says he doesn't flame irl!? LOL? HOMO
By: SyntaxOfLimbo ( Stray Dogs ) on 29/Apr/10 12:20
By: Nec0 on 29/Apr/10 13:08
By: ret ( Sexiest Men Alive ) on 29/Apr/10 14:19
By: dugi on 29/Apr/10 14:59
By: mu on 01/May/10 01:57
By: mu on 01/May/10 01:58
By: Peckerwoodz on 02/May/10 07:08
By: Peckerwoodz on 02/May/10 07:08
By: sublime on 02/May/10 10:23
By: ret ( Sexiest Men Alive ) on 02/May/10 11:18
By: sublime on 02/May/10 16:44
By: Arj ( Netherlands ) on 03/May/10 01:29
you forgot to mention me Gibbz.
By: frG ( TROLLS ) on 03/May/10 09:01