Night Cup Finals

Hi,

There have been a few changes and subsequent delays over the course of NSNC12, but finally the end is near.

There was some debate over how fair the original loser bracket format was, as it was effectively a back door into the finals without any real handicap to the "winner of the losers" or any advantage to the "winner of the winners".

So we have decided that the losers bracket will only go as far as a Bronze Final match. This leaves us with two finals to be played to wrap up NSNC12 but unfortunately we are out of time this weekend.

Finals: Flatline vs the clan
Bronze Finals: The sproggalots vs Not Really Sure

These games will be played sometime in the next week (next weekend at the latest).

It has been a learning experience for me running this Night Cup and I hope the next one will not be so messy. Watch out for NSNC13 in the coming weeks!

Thanks.

Update:

Finals to be played tonight (Sunday 27th July) at 20:00 CET.

Good luck!

Admirable on 21 July 08 02:03

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Gp Cobi

Booo !

21 July 2008, 02:45

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Vc BerglunD | Snowrollers

how cute

21 July 2008, 03:19

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Gb mu

the handicap is that you have to win 6 rounds over 4 maps if youre losers bracket finalists and only 3 rounds over 2 maps in winners bracket finals

21 July 2008, 04:14

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No Fana | Archaea

It's not a true loser/lower bracket, as the winner of the lower bracket doesn't play the winner of the upper bracket in the tournament final.

So it's not a handicap, as you can't actually win the tournament if you get knocked down to the lower bracket, mu.

21 July 2008, 06:15

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No Fana | Archaea

Wow nevermind, I'm an idiot. Learn to read brackets!? Delete the last comment and this comment to save me from humiliation please! :(

21 July 2008, 06:16

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Sl GibbZ | 9L

:D

21 July 2008, 07:47

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Fi Bacillus | Quaxy

What about GB? Shouldn't they be in the Loser's bracket finals?

21 July 2008, 13:51

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No Fana | Archaea

Aha! I was right in the first place. How typical.

The disadvantage of coming from the lower bracket into the final should be that you have to win two maps, while the upper bracket team only has to win one map. That's how it's done in all the big CS tournaments, anyway.

21 July 2008, 15:45

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Vc BerglunD | Snowrollers

who cares about cs? :/

21 July 2008, 17:17

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Za Tweadle

I like lower bracket idea just because it means that teams are more likely to play a clan of their own skill level at some point. This is the first time we've ever had objections to the concept and i'm not entirely sure why :(

21 July 2008, 17:37

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Ie Admirable | coolclan

There needs to be a handicap akin to what Fana has said.

Also the first round matches should be random instead of "strong team" vs "weak team".

21 July 2008, 18:52

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No Fana | Archaea

If you don't seed matches, the lower bracket has to lead to a final against the upper bracket winner. If not, you risk having the best match in the first round, and the teams who should've been placed 1 and 2 instead end up placed 1 and 5-8.

21 July 2008, 19:43

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Gb mu

Double elimination really isnt hard to grasp:

you seed all teams

1 plays 8, 2 plays 7, 3 plays 6, 4 plays 5

Seeds 1, 3, 6 and 8 on 1 side of upper bracket, with 2, 4, 5 and 7 on the other.

If you lose you go to lower bracket. Winners of upper bracket play each other to get to finals.

Losers of that match play winner of lower bracket. Losers of this match take bronze, winners go into finals.

To win finals, upper bracket wins one round (and tournament) by knocking the other team out of lower bracket.

Since you can only leave the tournament by losing in lower bracket, the winners of lower bracket must beat the upper bracket finalists not only once to put them in the lower bracket, but twice to then knock them out of tournament totally.



save this as doubleelimination.txt

21 July 2008, 21:13

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Gb mu

you dont need to seed but its better imo ?!

21 July 2008, 21:45

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Ie Admirable | coolclan

"Since you can only leave the tournament by losing in lower bracket, the winners of lower bracket must beat the upper bracket finalists not only once to put them in the lower bracket, but twice to then knock them out of tournament totally."

This is the handicap we were missing.

Good work mu :)

21 July 2008, 23:34

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No Fana | Archaea

Good work mu?! Fuck you, I suggested it first.

GOD

DAMNIT

22 July 2008, 00:27

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Gb mu

its the bog standard double elimination system

nobody thought of anything new

you noobs!

22 July 2008, 00:41

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Za Tweadle

I like it.

22 July 2008, 01:50

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Vi frG | TROLLS

wow, this style of winner/fana bracket has been used almost everywhere for years, including 3vs3 in wow and 5vs5 in wow invitiational events.

Nonetheless its the best system, would be good to see this in the next nightcu.

22 July 2008, 02:50

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Vi frG | TROLLS

+p

22 July 2008, 02:51

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Ie Admirable | coolclan

I say again,

ALL HAIL KING MU

22 July 2008, 03:38

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Gb mu

NS-I had this system

22 July 2008, 06:56

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No Fana | Archaea

I am going to stab you in the mouth and piss on your forehead.

22 July 2008, 10:11

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De gobot | Stray Dogs

Loser bracket was fine. Kept you a bit longer in the tournament

22 July 2008, 21:25

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Uk pathy

lol, we (NrS)got to the finals!? we only played one game and lost it 2-0.

22 July 2008, 22:17

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Gb csm

"It has been a learning experience for me running this Night Cup and I hope the next one will not be so messy."

After 11 cups? ._.

25 July 2008, 21:05

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Fi Iots | el'pheer

'FFFFFFFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE'

you cunt

27 July 2008, 18:24

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Uk Starchy | Anonym Anti Anti A.

csm do you just like cs manager or something?

28 July 2008, 06:28

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Sl GibbZ | 9L

it stands for CaptainScum[UK]

28 July 2008, 06:30

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Gb sublime | Spastic Colon

On CS manager I bought spacejesus then my clan folded :(

28 July 2008, 18:49

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