Gather Update

Glove has been banned from playing gathers in #ensl

After joining and being made captain (which he refused he was), he then removed me from steamfriends when I was asking him to chose teams, and then later signed off IRC, while all this was happening playing NS on a public server.

Please note in the future if your having connection problems, or cannot play in a gather, it is your responsibility to warn the gather admin and to find a player (if you have the time).

This is just general courtesy.

Gathers are made so that people can enjoy a competetive game without the hassle of making a mix or without the pain of not having enough team players on. Respect the other players in the gather.


GibbZ on 14 June 08 20:01

History | Comments: 79


By: GreeN ( cisequaltothree ) on 14/Jun/08 20:03
I think glove is racist as well..
By: Bonez on 14/Jun/08 20:06
It´s nice to see ensl taking more actions against nubtards.
By: mu on 14/Jun/08 21:33
this is important news
By: vallanhaamu ( Anonym Anti Anti A. ) on 14/Jun/08 22:16
By: Maxx on 14/Jun/08 22:52
Front page material, no doubt about it.
By: dAn00b on 14/Jun/08 22:56
By: vallanhaamu ( Anonym Anti Anti A. ) on 14/Jun/08 22:59
Why even post about bans? :D
By: bp on 15/Jun/08 00:09
thanks for the info
By: 360ms on 15/Jun/08 00:20
naughty glove
By: GibbZ ( 9L ) on 15/Jun/08 00:41
When people make mistakes they need to be shown up so that others don't do the same.
By: Cobi on 15/Jun/08 02:52
By: Voodo ( Two Team Squad ) on 15/Jun/08 03:16
By: 360ms on 15/Jun/08 06:29
Mp is still in control!!
By: ZiGGY on 15/Jun/08 07:05
eeeeeeeee penis!!!!!!!
By: qin on 15/Jun/08 15:04
This season will be remembered of all the bans and suspensios given, never mind the winners.
By: gobot ( Stray Dogs ) on 15/Jun/08 16:20
By: Scale on 15/Jun/08 17:58
I think this was more personal thing than a public.. This must have been stupidest frontpage news in ensl history. Just ban him and dont make stupid news :D
By: vallanhaamu ( Anonym Anti Anti A. ) on 15/Jun/08 18:31
exactly scale
By: ares ( The Team ) on 15/Jun/08 20:10
as i remember n44bj afk'ed yesterday after signin on in gather, so one of team got merc. any explanations why he isn't banned?
By: macpersil ( Team Two ) on 15/Jun/08 20:11
Either the ENSL admins are TOTALLY FUCKD in their heads or they have nothing better to do than banning ppls.
Really if GibbZ would not have played in this gather Handschuh would never get banned for this because banning from the gathers seems to me as if GibbZ has nothing better to do. Ban more ppl from the gather maybe the Scene becomes more active by this.
To be honest - WHO CARES?

#ns.gather :)
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By: macpersil ( Team Two ) on 15/Jun/08 20:16

" Wasting admins time "

Next time dont join the gather when an admin is in it you could get disconnected or your comp could freeze and then you will get banned for "wasting admins time"

HAHAHHAHAH This admins are a joke
By: macpersil ( Team Two ) on 15/Jun/08 20:18
btw how long is he banned? Fuck this question has just answered itself - FOR EVER OFC. - PPL who waste admins time (ENSL Admins = ppl who decide themselves to waste time on the league and its ppl) could do it again
By: Scale on 15/Jun/08 20:22
I think admins just try show their authority.
By: macpersil ( Team Two ) on 15/Jun/08 20:24
omg scale dont risk it if they read ur comment u will get banned for wasting their time!!!
By: skipjack ( miau ) on 15/Jun/08 20:56
komm mal runter mp
By: Handschuh on 15/Jun/08 21:00
Finds interessant wie gut es Gibbz schafft die Situation zu verfälschen, naja wayne :o Gather is wie pub, fast alles hirnlose Spieler mit weniger Gegnern
By: Voodo ( Two Team Squad ) on 15/Jun/08 21:14
mp u failed when u got out from ur mom
By: macpersil ( Team Two ) on 15/Jun/08 21:23
Voodo if you failed when you got out of your mom it doesnt mean that others failed too!
By: vallanhaamu ( Anonym Anti Anti A. ) on 15/Jun/08 21:35
admins went quiet :D
By: vallanhaamu ( Anonym Anti Anti A. ) on 15/Jun/08 21:35
macpersil 1 - 0 ENSL :I
By: qin on 15/Jun/08 22:36
By: gobot ( Stray Dogs ) on 15/Jun/08 22:56
I think they just cant talk to mp because his level is far too low ;-)
By: Tweadle on 15/Jun/08 23:07
Our levels are too high - Mp's level is grey so we can't see what he writes anymore. We'll take on board the point that we don't have to make news posts for this kind of thing but seriously, fucking about in a gather while everyone is waiting is annoying. I don't think you understand how much time and effort it can be to get some spacktards to pull their weight (ever CL in the world will attest to this). If someone is deliberately prolonging the game for the other 11 players who are wanting to have a quick friendly game, then they can fuck off :)
By: sherpa ( cisequaltothree ) on 15/Jun/08 23:11're-and-Your
By: Sharpi on 15/Jun/08 23:12
i want to hear Arj's opinion
By: howdeh ( minions ) on 15/Jun/08 23:14
Macpersil` for head admin.
By: GibbZ ( 9L ) on 15/Jun/08 23:27
The evidence was against Handschuh, signing off IRC, deleting me from friends.

I am sorry but if he had said "GibbZ I can not play sorry" - then it's a compeltely different matter. However he did not respect anyone else in the gather.
By: Iots ( el'pheer ) on 16/Jun/08 00:13
GibbZ i can not play sorry
By: Admirable ( coolclan ) on 16/Jun/08 00:53
Who the fuck is this Ots guy?
By: GreeN ( cisequaltothree ) on 16/Jun/08 02:41
It's firths new troll name
By: Merrick on 16/Jun/08 03:13
firth for head admin

there should be like a warning basis tbh, shouldnt just ban people straight away like.

But like what happens if u sign up and ur captain and then something happens irl like your sister boyfriend stabs himself with a knife and you need to drive him to hospital.

There should be 3 strike thing tbh....
By: GreeN ( cisequaltothree ) on 16/Jun/08 04:49
What happens if hes just playing public like an obnoxious twat?
By: Arj ( Ant ) on 16/Jun/08 11:45
I'm waiting for some admin members to request to be excused from duty, since you can't possibly be taken seriously after the actions that have occured recently. Good admin members like Jiriki are degrading their reputation with some incapable members in the admin team.
It would be time for people like Jiriki to take action and renew the admin team with people that do not abuse admin power.

Banning someone for life is absolutely absurd, banning someone because you are annoyed.. no words can describe. This did not happen once, it happened twice.
By: Hammond ( coolclan ) on 16/Jun/08 13:42
The newspost would have been better without the Glove part and I suppose a warning before a ban would have been cool too? Then again, no one remembers that shit so just ban him straight away.
But I'm glad there's finally some banning going on! Generally speaking.

- luffa xoxoxooxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoox
By: Aleksi ( FINNSTACK ) on 16/Jun/08 14:28
competetive != competitive
By: GibbZ ( 9L ) on 16/Jun/08 15:16
Arj, the Macpersil ban, admin decision including ALL the admins, the James ban, another collective decision, this ban, not so, but no admin has come to me and said "that's wrong". I don't intend on keeping Glove banned permantly, I'm not harsh by mind. However the fact you say we're abusing our power. I mean why would be ban james then? Tweadle was the one who actually banned James permantly, and funny enough James and Tweadle as e-relationships go are pretty good. We play WoW daily with James and that's why I found it hard to ban him. Yet he deserved it and had to be shown up. HE even admitted that. Macpersil was being a pest, constantly being a pest. Out of all the times he pushed us and pushed us he got ONE ban.

The only ban you can actually complain about fairly is this ban. So Glove will be banned from a gather for a week or two, OH NO. It's a minor punishment for a minor crime. It wasn't because I was annoyed it was because he was being a complete DICK to the other 11 players in the gather showing no care or intent for them. To be honest I think that equally comes under the fair play rule and also in a sense he also wasted admin time. However you want to put it. Glove was a massive penis.

Arj once again I feel your attacking me and tweadle? I don't know what gives me this impression... I swear you've never done it before... ='(
By: GibbZ ( 9L ) on 16/Jun/08 15:24
frG reminded me something and told me about his days as head admin. The fact remains I give up alot of my free time, as does EVERY ensl admin, in to keeping this league running and to minimise any problems. So when problems arise you just have to fix them.

Any good league even gather does exactly the same. You can ask Admirable. If you join and TF2 gather and go AFK or don't turn up, you get a ban. What difference should there be from NS? (and don't give some shit "the games dead l0l" excuse). Your only comparing the ENSL now to what is was. You all used to whine about people not being punished, and now you get it.
By: Tweadle on 16/Jun/08 16:23
I hope when you say incapable members, you're just talking about me. I'm the only one that could possibly be seen as incapable (and by incapable, i'm assuming you mean biased) and that's because I still swear at idiots. And I hope you think i'm incapable just because I call you names and make you unhappy.

You realise how overwhelming the support for stricter rule-abiding was after last season's absolute shambles? We've had 4 suspensions this season. Bergy for multi-clanning, Macpersil for dick-mongering, James for racism and Glove for fucking about in gathers. Get over it or at least start the slow recovery because that isn't exactly a banfest.
By: pathy on 16/Jun/08 16:36
time was only wasted because you were too stubborn to just change the captain. i know he should have just got on with it, but seriously....
By: dugi on 16/Jun/08 17:02
why would you whine about a gather ban if gathers are played once a month or so? jesus D:
By: Admirable ( coolclan ) on 16/Jun/08 17:20
By: vallanhaamu ( Anonym Anti Anti A. ) on 16/Jun/08 17:40
By: GibbZ ( 9L ) on 16/Jun/08 18:12
pathy... so if I had changed captain.. what we'd had 11 people in the gather. Nice.

You do the maths please.

Doogie's point is valid.
By: qin on 16/Jun/08 18:15
Things that keep me going: CtrlAltDel, vgcats, pennyarc, LFG, real news, ENSL news aftermath ..
By: vallanhaamu ( Anonym Anti Anti A. ) on 16/Jun/08 19:12
ENSL is good humour
By: jiriki ( old people ) on 16/Jun/08 19:17
In finnish gathers we used to ban people for several days for not showing up. It worked and there wasn't all this childish drama about it.

The rule about wasting admin's time is very useful, and I think I'm going to start to ban more people because of that. Just yesterday I had to enforce a very clear rule and argue with the other team for 20+mins just because the other team did not understand that when there's a clear written rule, we enforce it and its not a debate.

Macpersil, you can check your pm's why you annoyed us. I don't post the log here, because I want to respect your privacy but you can check it, and if you still don't get why, I'm sorry but I can't help it.

This reminds me of a situation of several seasons ago when a team did not accept my decision (I think it was a replay denial of stuck fade or something) and kept whining it for hours and then blamed me for not telling them not stop it, which I had been doing from the start. I clearly should have banned people for wasting time back then and I should be doing that in the future too.

It is just a shame how many childish people there are still in this scene. Given that admins don't get paid for this, banning people for annoying us shouldn't surprise anyone.

sherpa, we learned that (proper usage of you're/your) in the comprehensive school. I was kind of surprised how so many native english speakers can't get it right!
By: Admirable ( coolclan ) on 16/Jun/08 19:22
Your right J dawg!
By: 360ms on 16/Jun/08 19:44
Actually you made up a new rule and had no backing for the rule other than "well it's written down?!"

By: 360ms on 16/Jun/08 20:10
People who have been abused by a system that rewards the team who complains the most are more likely to commit more offenses too.
By: jiriki ( old people ) on 16/Jun/08 20:11
Lump, you're wrong.

Rules, Section 7.2:
"If player gets high ping or warps continiously, referee will request the player to leave. In case there is no referee, demos will be inspected after the game and a forfeit loss may be given."

It has been there since of the start of the league, though I changed it a bit some seasons ago as part of bigger rule change which was announced in the news.

I think we should start banning people more harshly for minor offenses. Those who commit minor offenses are more likely to commit major ones. Being more harsh on minor offfenses will prevent major problems, and on the bright side we'll have less of these idiots who complain about every ban as great injustice without understanding a thing - and get away with it.
By: phil ( Flatline-Ns ) on 16/Jun/08 20:11
lol zamma you dont have anything better to do anyway aAHAHAHAHahah
By: 360ms on 16/Jun/08 20:12
lol deleted posts, about me being wrong (as I did see the post before you removed it)

I'm not wrong, the rule says I should have been asked to leave the server, I wasn't.
By: GibbZ ( 9L ) on 16/Jun/08 20:12
your right I don't have a child to feed and raise.
By: 360ms on 16/Jun/08 20:13
Also you're still only justifying it with this reason:

"well it's written down"
By: phil ( Flatline-Ns ) on 16/Jun/08 20:14
didnt expect that!
and btw you guys are ridiculous
By: jiriki ( old people ) on 16/Jun/08 20:16
I DELETED my own post and added to the latter post because this webpage does not have editing function.
By: 360ms on 16/Jun/08 20:17
Yes it shows now, still, you made up a new rule(I see nothing about banning people from going fade) and justify it with "well it's written down".. ¬_¬
By: 360ms on 16/Jun/08 20:18
ensl slowly turns into yo-clan :(
By: jiriki ( old people ) on 16/Jun/08 20:19
Lump, I gave you special permission to play without lerking or fading and now you are whining about it - why? If you did not want to play, you could have taken another player - for christ sake, have some common sense.
By: Tweadle on 16/Jun/08 20:20
Firstly, it being written down is valid justification - if it's not, at least say why the rule shouldn't be there in the first place :/. Secondly he's also justifing it as a preventative measure which is a very valid reason. I don't like comparing this scene to other more vibrant ones but seriously, other communites are MUCH harsher.
By: 360ms on 16/Jun/08 20:20
We tried to get a merc but the other team refused
By: phil ( Flatline-Ns ) on 16/Jun/08 20:22
could you guys stop whining,complaining and arguing? get some balls and start to flame you morons!
By: Admirable ( coolclan ) on 16/Jun/08 20:31
Fuck you phil you hacker!
By: smokealot on 16/Jun/08 20:32
haha yeah macpersil merc in ensl semi good joooke lump
By: Android ( Snowrollers ) on 16/Jun/08 20:36
hahaha lump u tried to get macpersil to play instead of you... Thats not a div 2 merc as far as i know... :)
By: BerglunD ( Snowrollers ) on 17/Jun/08 16:54
what difference does it make..
By: Starchy ( Anonym Anti Anti A. ) on 20/Jun/08 17:56
nibz is the most retarded word ever
By: phil ( Flatline-Ns ) on 20/Jun/08 18:58
you`re the most retarded word ever!
By: Handschuh on 21/Jun/08 01:08

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